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Offline Viktoria

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Re: Ancestors of a nation
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 May 21 10:43 BST (UK) »
And Edward III's father was?

It's a wise bairn that kens his ain faither! ;D

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Edward II married Isabella of France.

 
Who were their mothers ....  it's an even wiser babe that cares for their mum when she is in her final years.

Not all have that privilege . :'(

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Re: Ancestors of a nation
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 May 21 11:58 BST (UK) »
If you were to find such an event with DNA testing, a straying wife or informal adoption, then it does not stop the non biological family from being part of your family tree. You inherit their ethics and their influences, just not their genetics.

My uncle born September 1944 may not have been the biological son of my grandfather. I first heard this rumour about 20 years ago, after grandparents died.



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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Ancestors of a nation
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 May 21 13:33 BST (UK) »
Yes ,although I had lived with my parents to three and a half until evacuated the next four and a half years at least were with another family.
My parents were not churchgoers unlike my wartime parents.
I have absorbed many traits and values of the kind people I lived with in those formative years.
I would not have missed it .
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Re: Ancestors of a nation
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 05 May 21 16:41 BST (UK) »
Paper trails can lie, DNA does not lie. At least we can all claim to be descended from Charlemagne.  ;)

I say about 5% of our ancestors we have traced may not be biological ones. Infidelity is as old as time itself, and was relatively common 200 years ago like today.

Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Ancestors of a nation
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 06 May 21 12:22 BST (UK) »
    and the fact that everyone has 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8, 16, 32 and so on,


The only part which is strictly correct is that everyone had 2 parents. Beyond that the multiplication
 depends on how common cousin marriages were. 
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Re: Ancestors of a nation
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 06 May 21 13:33 BST (UK) »
    and the fact that everyone has 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8, 16, 32 and so on,


The only part which is strictly correct is that everyone had 2 parents. Beyond that the multiplication
 depends on how common cousin marriages were.

The cousin link can go back some time. My father was descended from an Alexander Cruickshank in the early 18th century through a daughter by his first wife and my mother from the same man through a daughter by his second wife. They were sixth cousins, which, I suppose, makes me my own seventh cousin.

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Re: Ancestors of a nation
« Reply #15 on: Friday 07 May 21 09:50 BST (UK) »
There was a Charlie Main at my school! ;D

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Re: Ancestors of a nation
« Reply #16 on: Friday 07 May 21 10:52 BST (UK) »
At my training Nursery we had Arfur ( Arthur) Mo (Mo——-) and his brother Stevie Mo (——)
Arfur once drank a jar of tadpoles from the nature table, honestly !
He was in the ‘inbetweeners’room ‘,not a babybut a toddler of 18 months or so.
He invariably had holes in his trousers ,once there was one at the back and the dressing up box had a fur stole in it.
Rough handling meant the tail had come off the Silver Fox ,so we stuffed it through the hole at the back of his trousers ,he loved it - thought he looked like a kitten dressed up with the hole accommodating his luxuriant tail which tickled his legs as he ran about .
We got into trouble for that by Matron who couldn’t keep her face straight.
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Re: Ancestors of a nation
« Reply #17 on: Friday 07 May 21 17:43 BST (UK) »
    and the fact that everyone has 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8, 16, 32 and so on,


The only part which is strictly correct is that everyone had 2 parents. Beyond that the multiplication
 depends on how common cousin marriages were.

The cousin link can go back some time.

Cousin marriages might have happened more than once in a branch. Ancestral lines of a distant relative of mine probably leads back 3 times to one 17thC. ancestor. My maternal GM's tree is short on surnames as 2 branches were in the habit of marrying people in their small circle who had the same surname as them or their mother, and who were probably related to them.
 A member of one of those branches bucked the trend and married a woman from a different county.  :o  A relative of that woman was a descendant of King Edward 3rd. KE3's descendants apparently being 10 a penny, I was more interested that another ancestor was St. Thomas More.
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