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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #117 on: Friday 11 June 21 17:10 BST (UK) »
Lady Mary Rooke nee Luttrell ( George Jnr's mother) had 3 siblings:
Tregonwell- died 1703- No issue
Jane -died 1688- age 4
Frances married Edward Harvey 1705, then married Edward Ashe 1710- no issue from this marriage and I can not find any reference to her having children with her first husband.

Admiral Sir George Rooke's first wife was Mary Howe - I can not find any reference to them having children

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The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #118 on: Friday 11 June 21 17:18 BST (UK) »
One of Lady Catherine Rooke's sons with her second husband , Henry Moor(e), was Admiral Sir John Moor(e), 1718-1779. Wikipedia states that he was educated at Whitchurch Grammar School , Shropshire. It might be worth trying to find where his 2 elder brothers were educated?

His eldest brother, Henry Moor died in 1729- at Cambridge- see a previous reply-, the next eldest was Revd Thomas Moore DD of Slow Hall Norfolk. There was also a sister -Mary who married Rev Dr Forester.

I found details of Lady Rooke's and Henry Moor's children from his obituary on 9 March 1770 in The Derby Mercury

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Thank you for the interesting information.
Catherine Knatchbull, widow in Jan. 1709, remarries 26 Dec. 1710 to Henry Moor(e).

Where is young George Rooke, aged 8 years old?

Where is he up to 16 years old, when he studies at Pembroke College?

After his studies where does he go and what occupation does he have?
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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« Reply #119 on: Friday 11 June 21 17:22 BST (UK) »
One of Lady Catherine Rooke's sons with her second husband , Henry Moor(e), was Admiral Sir John Moor(e), 1718-1779. Wikipedia states that he was educated at Whitchurch Grammar School , Shropshire. It might be worth trying to find where his 2 elder brothers were educated?

His eldest brother, Henry Moor died in 1729- at Cambridge- see a previous reply-, the next eldest was Revd Thomas Moore DD of Slow Hall Norfolk. There was also a sister -Mary who married Rev Dr Forester.

I found details of Lady Rooke's and Henry Moor's children from his obituary on 9 March 1770 in The Derby Mercury

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Very interesting information and thank you.

Back to George Rooke
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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« Reply #120 on: Friday 11 June 21 17:36 BST (UK) »
Were there no children from Sir George's 1st marriage? Elder sisters of young George?
Have we discounted siblings of young George's mother?
The last attachment wouldn't open for me.

Admiral George Rooke only had child from his three marriages.
Son, George from his 2nd wife Mary (Luttrell).
She passed away shortly after giving birth to George.
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain


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The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #121 on: Friday 11 June 21 17:42 BST (UK) »
Lady Mary Rooke nee Luttrell ( George Jnr's mother) had 3 siblings:
Tregonwell- died 1703- No issue
Jane -died 1688- age 4
Frances married Edward Harvey 1705, then married Edward Ashe 1710- no issue from this marriage and I can not find any reference to her having children with her first husband.

Admiral Sir George Rooke's first wife was Mary Howe - I can not find any reference to them having children

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Admiral George Rooke married three times.
1st wife Mary Howe, she passed away 1699, no children.
2nd wife Mary Luttrell, she gave birth to a boy, named George in July 1702.
She passed away shortly after giving birth.
3rd wife Catherine Katchbull, became a widow in 1709, had no children.
She remarried in Dec.1710.

Back to young George's life.......
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #122 on: Friday 11 June 21 17:48 BST (UK) »
As per my 1st post about young George Rooke: -
There is a small mention in 'Memoirs of Laetitia Pilkington, Vol.II, 1749'

Quote from page 129: -
'....for the very first news i heard next morning, as, that Mr Rooke, a little while after he rose, fell down in an Apoplectic Fit, and instantly expired.'

From where did she get that information?
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain

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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #123 on: Saturday 12 June 21 16:16 BST (UK) »

I wonder what he did once he obtained his B.A.?
And once he married where was he and what occupation did he have?
As for George's important care up to the age of 16?
The majority of his uncles and aunts had already passed away.

These are only my opinions based on a typical life of a gentleman of the time.

George would have had a nurse and perhaps a governess during his early childhood.
From around age 8 he would have had a tutor or attended school. It may have been a day school if there was one within travelling distance. If it was too far to travel each day, he may have stayed at the school or in nearby lodgings for each school week and travelled home for weekends. (Wherever home was after deaths of his father and grandmother and remarriage of his stepmother.) He may have gone to a boarding school. Any of those things may have happened even if a boy's parents were alive. It was believed that boys should move away from female influence sometime between ages 7-11, otherwise they risked growing up "soft". They had to learn to become "manly".

George was probably sent to public school from around age 13. We know his great-uncle Lawrence was a pupil at Eton. Do you know which school, if any, George's father and grandfather attended? The only reference to Sir George's education I saw was that his father ensured he was educated as a gentleman and that he did well at his studies and was intended for a law career.
Benefits of a public school weren't just education but also meeting and mixing with other boys of similar social class and their families, making useful friendships.

A well-off young man might go on a Grand Tour of Europe. It was a sort of 18th century gap year for posh boys. He would have been accompanied by an older man, perhaps a tutor or another responsible man. As George started at Cambridge aged 16, his Grand Tour, if he went on one would likely have been after graduation.

How wealthy was George? What was the size of his inheritance from Dad and Grandma? Could he live off it? Did the estate in Canterbury provide an income? Were there other properties? Investments? What did his wife bring to the marriage?
If George didn't have to work he might have spent his time managing his estate, being a country gentleman, socialising in the county and in Town, entertaining visitors who came to stay and likewise visiting their homes, sporting pursuits, possibly cultivating political influence.
Was anything happening to his property at Canterbury between his majority and death, e.g. improvements to house or grounds, buying, selling or enclosing land?
What was happening in polite society in Canterbury and Kent at the time?
What was his wife's family doing? Business, politics, sport?
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Re: The son of Sir George Rooke - George Rooke (1702-1739)
« Reply #124 on: Saturday 12 June 21 22:12 BST (UK) »
  Kings School, Canterbury? A future Dean of Canterbury, born 1697, was educated there. (John Lynch)
Pay, Kent
Codham/Coltham, Kent
Kent, Felton, Essex
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« Reply #125 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 17:50 BST (UK) »

I wonder what he did once he obtained his B.A.?
And once he married where was he and what occupation did he have?
As for George's important care up to the age of 16?
The majority of his uncles and aunts had already passed away.

These are only my opinions based on a typical life of a gentleman of the time.
.................
 .......What was his wife's family doing? Business, politics, sport?
Thank you for your valuable reply.

Things are looking extremely thin on finding information about George Rooke's life (1702-1739), apart from now knowing he obtained a BA, at Pembroke College, Cambridge, aged 18.

I'm tempted to delve down the other paths, but considering the current known position, i probably won't bother

Added
No luck from SevenOaks School, i now written to Kent Archives to check the Governors’ Minute Books.

No luck from The Norton Knatchbull School, records held don't back back that far.

And nothing from The Harvey Grammar School, records held only for 7 years.

It's not looking good....
Ireland:-
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford
Ferrissey - Waterford
Mooney - Waterford
Murphy - Waterford
Phelan - Waterford
Power - Waterford
Veale - Waterford

England:-
Brandon - Liverpool
Beale (Hamblin/Hamblen) - London?
Reed - Bedfordshire
Turner - Luton
Taylor - Bedfordshire

Spain & Italy:-
Beneroso - Cadiz or Malaga, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Santos - Cadiz, Spain