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Rant about ThePeerage.com
« on: Friday 07 May 21 09:28 BST (UK) »
I expect people have gone on about this before but...... One expects the Peerage to be correct.

This from it

William Gregory was born in 1819.1 He was the son of Reverend William Gregory and Anne Levinge.2 He died in 1849, drowned while bathing in Lough Ree, near Athlone, unmarried.1
     He was with the Irish Revenue Police.1

one of several newspaper articles reporting this  is the Sun (London) 08 October
1845


and not only that, he wasn't  necessarily 'bathing'

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Re: Rant about ThePeerage.com
« Reply #1 on: Friday 07 May 21 13:07 BST (UK) »
  If this is the website I occasionally look at, I have the impression, which may be incorrect, that it is one man's project. I don't take it as always accurate!
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Re: Rant about ThePeerage.com
« Reply #2 on: Friday 07 May 21 13:18 BST (UK) »
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.....One expects the Peerage to be correct....

Do they?

 I see it as no different to the many online trees and the intro on the website is clear what it is

"The goal of this website is to capture in one place all of the members of the inter-connected families of the British peerage.The site is the result of around 17 years of work by one (somewhat eccentric) person collating information on the British Peers (and some European royals), and then entering it into a range of various genealogy programs. I do find conflicting info while expanding the database, and so try to resolve these conflicts and errors as I go."
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Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
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Re: Rant about ThePeerage.com
« Reply #3 on: Friday 07 May 21 13:20 BST (UK) »
Information only as accurate as what is being told. Always been errors and misinformation. And always will be even now. To err is human.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
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SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
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SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
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ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain


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Re: Rant about ThePeerage.com
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 May 21 13:58 BST (UK) »
Maybe the entry was made from handwritten notes where an over-curly 5 can be misread as a 9. The paragraph quoted by iluleah indicates that the site owner will accept corrections.
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Re: Rant about ThePeerage.com
« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 May 21 16:23 BST (UK) »
Burke's Peerage is notoriously unreliable. Oscar Wilde called it 'the best thing in fiction the English have ever done'.
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Re: Rant about ThePeerage.com
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 08 May 21 00:11 BST (UK) »
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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

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Re: Rant about ThePeerage.com
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 08 May 21 00:50 BST (UK) »
Whether you are new to the hobby or a long standing professional genealogist earning huge income,  the first lesson in FH101 is about ..... doing your own research,  take onboard other info, but do not rely on it alone.  Validate, consider, ask, look now, check, set aside, return with fresh eyes ....

And remember ....

Fiction .... Hogwash  .... Rubbish .... Pretence ....

These are all words that can be applied to publushed works on family history where oversight of the submitted details are not scrutinised by trained independent disinterested researchers.

And even then there will be questions for until DNA it has always been difficult to prove who fathered any child.   

Please note that Disinterested does not mean Uninterested. 

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Re: Rant about ThePeerage.com
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 08 May 21 12:02 BST (UK) »
I expect people have gone on about this before but...... One expects the Peerage to be correct.

This from it

William Gregory was born in 1819.1 He was the son of Reverend William Gregory and Anne Levinge.2 He died in 1849, drowned while bathing in Lough Ree, near Athlone, unmarried.1
     He was with the Irish Revenue Police.1

one of several newspaper articles reporting this  is the Sun (London) 08 October
1845


and not only that, he wasn't  necessarily 'bathing'

MCKHA
I do hope that you have messaged the website with your observations!

I have always sent any minor typos to Darryl Lundy who runs this considerable and very useful site.
Particularly useful when attempting to establish the original family names of the titled aristocracy who often seem to change their 'surnames' and merely call themselves by their title [which can also change].
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