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Re: what's so special about India?
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 12 May 21 17:13 BST (UK) »
Yes I have studied worldwide figures in considerable detail and indeed you can see from the website you have referred to that new cases are falling in more than two thirds of the nations in the world; with closer analysis you can also see that 7 day trend lines are now heading downwards in some of the nations which are identified as having a %age rise in their weekly trends section. You may also have noticed that in some of the places where weekly trends are shown as increasing absolute figures are very low and so are of very limited statistical significance in world terms.

The same website that you refer to shows that worldwide new cases have fallen by 120,000 (approx 15%) in the last week and Indian new cases have fallen by 34,000 (approx 9%).

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Re: what's so special about India?
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 12 May 21 17:59 BST (UK) »
I believe the reason why we are getting "so worked up about the situation in India" is because of the absolute number of lives being lost. It's not a case of looking at "deaths per million", it's a case of looking at deaths. Compassion for humanity, our fellow brothers and sisters in this grieving world.

Completely agree @trystan

And for anyone who thinks they need a better reason, there is also an element of self-preservation.

The more people who get infected with Covid the greater the number of random mutations that will occur.

The more random mutations, the greater the chance that one of them will prove to be more deadly and achieve 'vaccine escape'. The consequences of that are unimaginable.

Healthcare systems and government administrations which are stretched to breaking point with the number of cases and the number of deaths are less able to contain the total number of infections, and therefore we are all exposed to a greater risk from mutations. It is in our interests to help every country keep a lid on the virus as far as possible.

Finally, when comparing countries the accuracy of reporting has to be taken into account. Dr John Campbell's YouTube videos are always informative, and a few days ago he dealt with the issue of global under reporting of deaths. It is estimated that India's reported figures are about one third of the true numbers of deaths, and there is anecdotal evidence that reporting in some places could be around 10% (or less) of the true number. The scale of what is happening in India is very hard to comprehend.

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Re: what's so special about India?
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 13 May 21 23:04 BST (UK) »
For some months now it has seemed as if some journalists and politicians have been seeking out bad news stories from other countries to try to keep the fear going in the UK. The numbers in India, which has a population approaching 1.5 billion, are relatively low and are now falling fairly rapidly. Over 175 million doses of vaccine have already been administered in India so I would expect the politicians/media to try to find somewhere else to scare us with - not easy as the falling number of Covid cases worldwide suggest that this infection is burning itself out.

Utter nonsense. This pandemic has a long way to go yet. Look at these graphs and see if it is "burning itself out". As for politicians and media trying to find something else to scare us with, that's the sort of nonsense trotted out by COVID deniers and conspiracy theorists.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Just reported that UK Cases have doubled to 1300 in a week.

Unfortunately, there is no evidence of all the Covid-19 virus strains dying out or getting weaker.

The latest variant in the UK is listed as a variant of concern.

To be classified as a variant of concern by PHE, the following need to be met:

an increase in transmissibility or other detrimental change in epidemiology, and/or

an increase in virulence or change in clinical disease presentation, and/or

escape from immunity derived from natural infection, and/or

a decrease in effectiveness of public health or clinical countermeasures including vaccination, treatment in current clinical use, or testing if the impact is such that it is not easily mitigated by standard laboratory quality and regulatory measures