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Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« on: Sunday 09 May 21 16:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Everyone,
I am trying to establish the birth data for Johanna Pepper who was born about 1886 in Airth, Stirlingshire, Scotland. I believe she emigrated to Wellington, New Zealand in 1908 and married Robert Dunn Johnston in 1910. I am unable to find a birth registration for her although I have her with her siblings and parents in the 1891 and 1901 Scottish Census, which gives me an indication of her year of birth. The most reliable method of confirming that the Johanna referred to is my Great Aunt is if in her marriage certificate her father James Pepper, who was a Fisherman, is mentioned or any reference to her place of birth being Airth in Stirlingshire, Scotland.
Any help in sourcing this information is greatly appreciated.

Kind Regards,

John
Jackson, Somerville, Pepper, Livingstone, McCormick, Juggins, Shucksmith, Robinson

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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 May 21 17:24 BST (UK) »
A James Pepper married a Marion Taylor 1875.
There is a birth registration for Marion Taylor Pepper, 1878, Airth and Albert Pepper, 1882, Airth which would appear to fit the 1901 Census.

Yet to spot a Johanna or similar.

A Johanna Pepper sailed for Wellington on the "Arawa", May 1908 and a Pepper appears amongst the passengers arriving July - but no initial/given name legible(from Papers Past).

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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 May 21 18:17 BST (UK) »
The 1875 marriage and birth of Euphemia pre. this date was a puzzle but I see from the 1881 Census there were 4 step children in the household?

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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 May 21 22:17 BST (UK) »
This doesn't answer your question but some details which may be of interest:

1966/35802   Johnston   Johanna   81Y  [Her death?]

1932/10122   Johnston   Robert Dunn   56Y


Death details:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NEM19320725.2.46?end_date=31-12-1932&query=robert+dunn+johnston&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1932

Uncle & nephew:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/THD19320716.2.160?end_date=31-12-1932&items_per_page=10&phrase=2&query=robert+dunn+johnston&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1932

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.


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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 09 May 21 22:32 BST (UK) »
WW1 file of Robert Dunn Johnston:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=18054154&digital=yes

He declared in 1917 that he was 'single'.

Marriage:
1910/6010   Johanna   Pepper   Robert   Johnston

[Name of 'Dunn' not recorded at this time. Is Robert Dunn Johnston the correct man?]


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 May 21 23:24 BST (UK) »
Hello John

Mmm ... not sure where you got the name Robert Dunn JOHNSTON from ??

Johanna PEPPER is recorded as having married a Robert JOHNSTON -1910

These children of the marriage  >

JOHNSTON
1911 - Marion Frances

1913 - John  William Robert

1914 - Thelma Ruth

1916 - N/R - stillborn

Parents :  Johanna and Robert JOHNSTON.


All appear to have been born in Auckland, NZ - though  Marion Frances birth place not stated.

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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 May 21 23:30 BST (UK) »
Death of Johanna JOHNSTON :

Record from Purewa Cemetery, Auckland, NZ

Johanna JOHNSTON
aged 81 years 
Birth year :   c 1885
Born :  Scotland
Died :  29 September 1966
Last address:  110 Lillington Road, Remuera, Auckland
Relative :  Mr B.*  JOHNSTON (son)


[Note:   *Initial "B" for relative (son) may be incorrect.   - Seems she had just the one son ??  ]

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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 09 May 21 23:31 BST (UK) »
Probate record (with Will) for Johanna JOHNSTON  >

https://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE61155957


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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 May 21 23:43 BST (UK) »
This doesn't answer your question but some details which may be of interest:

1966/35802   Johnston   Johanna   81Y  [Her death?]

1932/10122   Johnston   Robert Dunn   56Y


Death details:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NEM19320725.2.46?end_date=31-12-1932&query=robert+dunn+johnston&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1932

Uncle & nephew:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/THD19320716.2.160?end_date=31-12-1932&items_per_page=10&phrase=2&query=robert+dunn+johnston&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1932

Minniehaha.

Just to clarify the Robert Dunn JOHNSTON and John William JOHNSTON  connection ...

The boy, John aged 18 years,  was John William Robert JOHNSTON the son of Mary Ann and John Henry JOHNSTON.  He was buried at Aramoho Cemetery, Wanganui,  - b/son of ...  ^ above ... accidentally killed  at Matarawa, 15 July 1932.

[NZ BDM - Births - 2 x  boys named John William Robert JOHNSTON -- 1 born 1913 at Auckland to Johanna and Robert JOHNSTON ... the other, birth registered  1914 at Waverley (Taranaki) would be the John who died 1932. ]
     
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