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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 09 May 21 23:51 BST (UK) »

 The most reliable method of confirming that the Johanna referred to is my Great Aunt is if in her marriage certificate her father James Pepper, who was a Fisherman, is mentioned or any reference to her place of birth being Airth in Stirlingshire, Scotland.
Any help in sourcing this information is greatly appreciated.


Hi John

Short of you purchasing a "printout" copy of the NZ marriage record for Johanna PEPPER, the next best thing would be to try and find a "family tree" at one of the online sites which may (or may not) contain reliable information.     Perhaps too, there might be a marriage notice in a newspaper or similar. 

Unfortunately, we only have access to marriage index which does not give parental information.

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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #10 on: Monday 10 May 21 00:06 BST (UK) »
Hi again John

Have just had a very quick peep at family trees published at ancestry.com.   There are 16 or so for the Johanna* / Robert JOHNSTON family ... several record the Robert Dunn JOHNSTON (died 1932) as her husband - but give little in the way of additional information for him.   (I'd therefore be very cautious about information contained in these .   ;D )

[ *  Johanna PEPPER born Airth .. etc.  ]

Will see what else can be found.

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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #11 on: Monday 10 May 21 00:32 BST (UK) »
Hi John

Well, just as some sort of clarification that Johanna's husband was not Robert Dunn JOHNSTON, this from electoral rolls >

As already mentioned earlier, Johanna and Robert's children were born in Auckland.

1911 - Auckland West electoral roll

JOHNSTON - Johanna - married
JOHNSTON - Robert - Tram conductor  ... both at 16 Bayfield Road


They are also together at Auckland West (at a new address, Albany Road) in years 1914 and 1919.


Skipping to 1935 - Auckland - Parnell electoral roll
Added :  All still at same address in 1938 - Remuera roll with exception of Thelma Ruth.

JOHNSTON
- Johanna - married
- Robert - motorman*
- John William Robert - salesman
- Thelma Ruth - spinster
- Marion Frances - spinster   ... all residing at 6a Lillington** Road


[Note :  *Looks like Robert has by this time graduated to being a driver of trams (motorman) ?
**  Lillington Road - same as given in Johanna's cemetery record.  ]

So that info would seem to eliminate the Robert Dunn JOHNSTON.   ;D

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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #12 on: Monday 10 May 21 00:46 BST (UK) »
Johanna JOHNSTON - burial

https://www.purewa.co.nz/view/?id=19044

Same plot at Purewa Cemetery >

Robert JOHNSTON - died 3 June 1952
https://www.purewa.co.nz/view/?id=28089

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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #13 on: Monday 10 May 21 01:15 BST (UK) »
... and just for extra good measure, burial record of Robert Dunn JOHNSTON (not the husband of Johanna).

Waverley Cemetery, Taranaki NZ
 Robert Dunn JOHNSTON - d. 14 July 1932 - 56 years ,
Commemorated with Father: Robert /  Mother:  Naomi / and sister Ethel Florence (d. aged 4yrs in 1894) :

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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #14 on: Monday 10 May 21 02:53 BST (UK) »

Birth of children:

1911/858   Johnston   Marion Frances   Johanna   Robert
1913/14086   Johnston   John William Robert   Johanna   Robert   -   

1916/4666   Johnston   NR   Johanna   Robert   S   
1914/3910   Johnston   Thelma Ruth   Johanna   Robert   -   

Marriage:

1937/12714   Thelma Ruth   Johnston   Raymond Douglas   McLean

Death:

1990/42508   McLean   Thelma Ruth   1 July 1914

Death:

1994/47081   McGregor   Marion Frances   2 March 1911


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #15 on: Monday 10 May 21 03:11 BST (UK) »
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #16 on: Monday 10 May 21 03:22 BST (UK) »
Marriage:

1939/6604   Margaret Kathleen   Dawson   John William Robert   Johnston

Death:

1995/51214   Johnston   John William Robert   27 February 1913


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Johanna Pepper married to Robert Dunn Johnston
« Reply #17 on: Monday 10 May 21 07:45 BST (UK) »
The probated will of Thelma Ruth would indicate she had another sibling.

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=8443226&digital=yes


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.