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Offline adamjack

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Swiss immigrants to England early 18th century
« on: Monday 10 May 21 09:35 BST (UK) »
Hello, I am trying to find out if there may be records of a possible ancestor emigrating from Switzerland to England in the early 1700s. He was born in Sitterdorf, Thurgau canton, Switzerland in 1690 and was in England by 1723 when he married in Rochester, Kent.

Also, does anyone know if a Swiss death record from 1776 would record the person's parents names?

Any help or advice appreciated, many thanks adamjack  :)

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Re: Swiss immigrants to England early 18th century
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 May 21 16:44 BST (UK) »
Hi

Did you already look on familysearch? They have some records of the catholic church of Sitterdorf listed in their catalog, but I can't look at this records.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=161597&query=%2Bplace%3A%22Switzerland%2C%20Thurgau%2C%20Sitterdorf%22%20%2Bavailability%3AOnline

If you don't find him there you should write to the the state archives of the canton Thurgau.

https://staatsarchiv.tg.ch/de/recherche.html/789
https://query-staatsarchiv.tg.ch/resultatliste.aspx

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Re: Swiss immigrants to England early 18th century
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 08:10 BST (UK) »
You’ve not given the name(s), and I’m not sure if your saying the person returned to Switzerland where they died?
Maybe you would give the details you have with names(s) and possibly we might help further.
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Re: Swiss immigrants to England early 18th century
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 May 21 08:08 BST (UK) »
is it William Mullenger who married Elizabeth Nichols at Rochester Cathedral 19th November 1723 - the only Foreign name I can see  ???
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Re: Swiss immigrants to England early 18th century
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 May 21 09:21 BST (UK) »
If that’s correct, garstonite, then the name as exactly written is not Swiss - according to the Surnames Dictionary https://hls-dhs-dss.ch/famn/index.php?lg=e
The nearest name in Sitterdorf TG is Müller.
I guess it may have been Anglised, which makes tracing him even more difficult!

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Re: Swiss immigrants to England early 18th century
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 May 21 14:54 BST (UK) »
Hi

I'm Swiss and I also think that Mullenger is not a Swiss surname.

The "Swiss Surnames Dictionary" only lists the surnames with place of origin, which still existed at this places in the 20th century. So it is possible that there existed other surnames at a certain place in the 18th century, which didnt't exist anymore at the same place in the 20th century. Also the place of origin must not be the same as the place of birth or the place where someone lived.

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Switzerland + USA: Iten, Letter, Besmer, Mathis, Meier, Schwager, Eisenring
Germany/Bavaria: Beinberger, Painberger, Schleich, Pfeiffer, Weber, Schelle
Germany/Bavaria: Boeck, Rauch, Pracht, Sporer, Schorer, Mahler, Grotz
Germany/Franken: Weidner, Reuss, Beifuss, Trenkert, Drenkert, Drenkart
Germany/Jewish: Bachmann, Bamberger, Straus(s), Kraus(s), Lehmann, Gutmann
I can read and write German, English and French.
I can translate from Italian and Latin to the above languages.