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Reason for Discharge
« on: Monday 10 May 21 17:45 BST (UK) »
My dad enlisted in the 3rd Carabiniers - Cavalry of the Line  on the 16th January 1931.
I received copies of his military records and it states that he was discharged on the 4th May 1931, with the reason “Not likely to become efficient having less than 6 months service”
There is another word after service that I cannot read.
Then a reference that looks like “32/0 (via) K.A.
Can anyone interpret this reference please?
I have seen other posts relating to similar discharges and know that the phrase is a bit of a catch all for many excuses to discharge.
This discharge did not stop his enlistment in 1940, when he was promoted to corporal after three months.
A year later he was discharged with Defective Vision 70%.
I suspect that his poor vision may have been the reason for his discharge in 1931, so would be grateful if the attached discharge notice could be interpreted.

BOOTLE from Wigan
BLACKLEDGE from Ince/Wigan
BURROWS from Haydock/St Helens
HODKINSON from Ince/Wigan
LAVIN from County Mayo, Ireland/Wigan
LITTLER from Ashton in Makerfield
MOLLOY from Offaly, Ireland/Wigan
PORTER from Wigan/Sedgley, Staffs
SOUTHERN from Aspull/Wigan
TICKLE from Wigan
TYRER from Lathom/Haydock
WOODS from Parr/St Helens
WORSLEY from Haydock/St Helens

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Re: Reason for Discharge
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 May 21 17:48 BST (UK) »
Second image
BOOTLE from Wigan
BLACKLEDGE from Ince/Wigan
BURROWS from Haydock/St Helens
HODKINSON from Ince/Wigan
LAVIN from County Mayo, Ireland/Wigan
LITTLER from Ashton in Makerfield
MOLLOY from Offaly, Ireland/Wigan
PORTER from Wigan/Sedgley, Staffs
SOUTHERN from Aspull/Wigan
TICKLE from Wigan
TYRER from Lathom/Haydock
WOODS from Parr/St Helens
WORSLEY from Haydock/St Helens

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Re: Reason for Discharge
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 May 21 18:02 BST (UK) »
It's Para 370 (vi a) Kings Regulations. It'll be the 1928 edition of KR which I haven't been able to find but Para 370 will give a long list of reasons that a soldier can be discharged. I'm guessing that this one will be something along the lines of "unlikely to become an efficient soldier, and having less than 6 months service"
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Re: Reason for Discharge
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 May 21 18:12 BST (UK) »
OK Thanks for the information
It doesn’t look like I will be able to clarify further, as I have all his service record and that is all the information that I have.
BOOTLE from Wigan
BLACKLEDGE from Ince/Wigan
BURROWS from Haydock/St Helens
HODKINSON from Ince/Wigan
LAVIN from County Mayo, Ireland/Wigan
LITTLER from Ashton in Makerfield
MOLLOY from Offaly, Ireland/Wigan
PORTER from Wigan/Sedgley, Staffs
SOUTHERN from Aspull/Wigan
TICKLE from Wigan
TYRER from Lathom/Haydock
WOODS from Parr/St Helens
WORSLEY from Haydock/St Helens


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Re: Reason for Discharge
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 May 21 18:21 BST (UK) »
Although perhaps the (vi a) in Para 370 might be informative, or am I just clutching at straws😇
BOOTLE from Wigan
BLACKLEDGE from Ince/Wigan
BURROWS from Haydock/St Helens
HODKINSON from Ince/Wigan
LAVIN from County Mayo, Ireland/Wigan
LITTLER from Ashton in Makerfield
MOLLOY from Offaly, Ireland/Wigan
PORTER from Wigan/Sedgley, Staffs
SOUTHERN from Aspull/Wigan
TICKLE from Wigan
TYRER from Lathom/Haydock
WOODS from Parr/St Helens
WORSLEY from Haydock/St Helens

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Re: Reason for Discharge
« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 May 21 20:15 BST (UK) »
There is a suggestion online that says it refers to making a false statement of age on enlistment, what age was he in 1931?

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Re: Reason for Discharge
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 May 21 20:33 BST (UK) »
When he joined up in 1931, he would have been 16 years 9 months.
On the records I have received, his year of birth is shown as 1912, not 1914 and his age as 18 years 9 months.
It appears that he knocked two years off his age to join and was found out.
I have a photograph of him in his uniform at that time and have always thought that he looked very young.
BOOTLE from Wigan
BLACKLEDGE from Ince/Wigan
BURROWS from Haydock/St Helens
HODKINSON from Ince/Wigan
LAVIN from County Mayo, Ireland/Wigan
LITTLER from Ashton in Makerfield
MOLLOY from Offaly, Ireland/Wigan
PORTER from Wigan/Sedgley, Staffs
SOUTHERN from Aspull/Wigan
TICKLE from Wigan
TYRER from Lathom/Haydock
WOODS from Parr/St Helens
WORSLEY from Haydock/St Helens

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Re: Reason for Discharge
« Reply #7 on: Monday 10 May 21 20:51 BST (UK) »
As referred to by Shaun it's "para 370" - but the 1928 version King's Regs (and later) is not available on line.
On the basis that the paragraph nos. change but the content remains very much the same I always have a look at the 1912 King's Regs -
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044048604474&view=1up&seq=1

Search under "unlikely" - check page 86

A condensed list, again 1912
http://military-researcher.co.uk/KingsRegs1912/Para392Introduction.html

 

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Re: Reason for Discharge
« Reply #8 on: Monday 10 May 21 23:37 BST (UK) »
Para 370 of KR 1928 became Para 383 in KR 1935 and it's likely that (vi a) stayed much the same:
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