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Re: Can’t find birth record!
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 17:53 BST (UK) »
Isaac also has a brother Portman (c1847) - FindMyPast has his name correctly, Ancestry has him as Poltman.
To find the family on either site just select the census for England 1861 and put in Smith and the numbers I have given

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Re: Can’t find birth record!
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 17:58 BST (UK) »
1851 census

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Re: Can’t find birth record!
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 18:06 BST (UK) »
Your Portman's paternal grandmother's maiden name seems to be Phillips

SMITH, LAWRENCE       PHILLIPS 
GRO Reference: 1848  S Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 02  Page 485

SMITH, ELIZABETH       PHILLIPS 
GRO Reference: 1844  S Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 02  Page 4

SMITH, ISAAC       PHILLIPS 
GRO Reference: 1842  S Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 02  Page 477

SMITH, WILLIAM  PHILLIPS     PHILLIPS 
GRO Reference: 1839  D Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 02  Page 408

Can't see anything yet for uncle Portman
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Re: Can’t find birth record!
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 18:20 BST (UK) »
Quote from: rosie99 on Tuesday 11 May 21 17:53 BST (UK)
Isaac also has a brother Portman (c1847) - FindMyPast has his name correctly, Ancestry has him as Poltman.
To find the family on either site just select the census for England 1861 and put in Smith and the numbers I have given

Found it! Thank you!

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Re: Can’t find birth record!
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 18:21 BST (UK) »
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Your Portman's paternal grandmother's maiden name seems to be Phillips

SMITH, LAWRENCE       PHILLIPS 
GRO Reference: 1848  S Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 02  Page 485

SMITH, ELIZABETH       PHILLIPS 
GRO Reference: 1844  S Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 02  Page 4

SMITH, ISAAC       PHILLIPS 
GRO Reference: 1842  S Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 02  Page 477

SMITH, WILLIAM  PHILLIPS     PHILLIPS 
GRO Reference: 1839  D Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 02  Page 408

Can't see anything yet for uncle Portman

Very helpful thank you  :)

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Re: Can’t find birth record!
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 18:36 BST (UK) »
Ooh I think Sarah Ling on the 1851 is the Sarah he married… Sarah Ling’s occupation  is a Dress Maker and on the 1871 census Isaac’s wife Sarah’s occupation is Tailoress! Wonder why her surname is down as Ling and not Owen though?

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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 18:48 BST (UK) »
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Ooh I think Sarah Ling on the 1851 is the Sarah he married… Sarah Ling’s occupation  is a Dress Maker and on the 1871 census Isaac’s wife Sarah’s occupation is Tailoress! Wonder why her surname is down as Ling and not Owen though?

She may be a completely different person. On the 1861 census, Sarah Ling's birth place is in Suffolk. The Sarah Smith in 1871 has her birth place as St. George in the East
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Re: Can’t find birth record!
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 18:53 BST (UK) »
I think Sarah Ling married James Chrystal Forrester
registered in the Sep quarter of 1870 in Mile End registration district

I think on the 1871 census they are in Mile End

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Re: Can’t find birth record!
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 18:55 BST (UK) »
Oh ok, that seems out of the question then. Got a bit excited there!
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