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Cecil Frederick Thomas Coulson 1885 - 1955
« on: Tuesday 11 May 21 21:12 BST (UK) »
Cecil was born in County Durham to parents Frederick Coulson and Annie Mary Munnoch.  He MAY have married the following women;

Mary Conway in 1915 (Liverpool) 1890 - 1938 (3 children, Richard 1920; Ernest 1922;Joseph 1920)

Maria (Mary) Farrell (unk.location for marriage, born Abt.1886 (unk death details)  (at least 2 children; Thomas Cecil 1913 ;Joseph 1919)

Elizabeth Hynes  in 1940. Born 1898 in Preston.

In a 1939  Census Cecil is listed as a Widower. Living with Bridie Hynes (Housekeeper) and the 3 children listed above.
At his death his widow is shown as Elizabeth (Bridie) Coulson. I am assuming he married his housekeeper.
My interest is in Thomas Cecil ( I have a DNA link to a descendent of his)

Do I have the details correct or is there more than one Cecil involved in these marriages. I also have a proven  direct link to his sister Whilhemina Coulson 1890 - 1977.

Hope I have not confused everyone.

Any guidance appreciated

Richard
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Re: Cecil Frederick Thomas Coulson 1885 - 1955
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 22:30 BST (UK) »
Can't quite understand the dates there.

He married Mary Conway in 1915 but had children with Maria Farrell in 1913 and 1917  ???

Do you have any of the marriage certificates to confirm anything?
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Re: Cecil Frederick Thomas Coulson 1885 - 1955
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 22:34 BST (UK) »
The 1915 marriage is Margaret Conway
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Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
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Re: Cecil Frederick Thomas Coulson 1885 - 1955
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 May 21 23:02 BST (UK) »
The 1915 marriage is Margaret Conway

Marriage    27 Oct 1915 St Mary Highfield Street, Liverpool, Lancashire

Cecil Coulson, The Barracks, Preston
Father:   Frederici Coulson Mother:   Anna Munigh

Margaritum Conway, 10 Rumford Place
Father:   Ricardi Conway Mother:   Elizabeth Mooney
Liverpool, England, Catholic Marriages, 1754-1933


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Re: Cecil Frederick Thomas Coulson 1885 - 1955
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 May 21 02:13 BST (UK) »
Cecil didn't often use his other initials but he married:

1. Mary Farrell 13/7/1909 Athlone, Westmeath, Ireland

    children: Ignatius Joseph b.1911 Preston, died 1912 Preston
                  Thomas Cecil b.20/10/1913 Preston

    wife Mary died Mar.qtr.1914 Preston

2. Margaret Conway 27/10/1915 Liverpool

    children: Richard Francis b.21/5/1920 Preston
                  Patrick Ernest b.31/10/1922 Preston (names switched round in 1939)
                  Michael Thaddeus b.21/4/1925 Cologne, Germany. died 1925 Cologne
                  Charles Christopher b.1926 Preston, died 1926 Preston
                  Joseph Bernard b.15/6/1928 Preston

    wife Margaret died Mar.qtr.1939 Preston

3.  Elizabeth Hynes 1940 Preston

Cecil stayed in the army after the war hence a son being born (and died) in Germany.  Believe service record stated until 1927.

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Re: Cecil Frederick Thomas Coulson 1885 - 1955
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 May 21 02:56 BST (UK) »
Gob smacked !!  Thank you very much Annette.   Felt I was looking in the right direction and now you have more than confirmed it.

Brilliant

Thanks

Richard
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Re: Cecil Frederick Thomas Coulson 1885 - 1955
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 May 21 06:45 BST (UK) »
I know the Coulson family here in Liverpool
one of them is one of the "Minders " for Ziggy Marley and his group when they are on tour .. :)

in the 1901 census Cecil is with his dad and grandad Robert - but no mum ??

https://www.rootspoint.com/record/1901-UK-Census/Cecil-Coulson-1886-Hartlepool-Gateshead/2abf45f4-6dde-462a-9668-84e0695e9cb8/
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......†† sacht,helgoland† .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..† jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Cecil Frederick Thomas Coulson 1885 - 1955
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 May 21 09:20 BST (UK) »
Well found Annette  :)

just adding the 1909 marriage image here

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1909/10028/5647492.pdf

Cecilís occupation, Soldier, father Fred draftsmanship

Hereís a possibility for a Mary Farrell age 10 on 1901 census
father John occ labourer

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Mullingar_Urban/Patricks_St__South_Side/1783669/

Search here to see if thereís a baptism for Mary / marriage parents

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp




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Re: Cecil Frederick Thomas Coulson 1885 - 1955
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 May 21 11:57 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for the information.  It has firmed up that part of my tree.

Richard
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