need help finding court/trial documents -William Harris

[Rena]

From details in an online book,  there was a barque named Flora.

17th December 1831 a new master was appointed named William HARRIS.

The barque was lost in 1836; there is no mention of whether any of the crew were saved.

https://www.bristol.ac.uk/Depts/History/bristolrecordsociety/publications/brs15.pdf


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[bbart]

Great find, Rena!   For the life of me, I cannot find the mention of William Harris in there... do you remember which page? I can see the Flora entries, but not William 

Finally found a news item on the actual burglary:

Hereford Journal 04 August 1847 page 4

Thomas Jackson, aged 19, and William Harris, aged 19,
trampers, to having on the night of 26th April last, at Ewyas
Harold, burglariously broken and entered the dwelling-house
of Richard Lilwall, and stolen one gold seal, value ten shillings,
one silver knife, value five shillings, one penknife, value one
shilling, and other articles, the property of Ann Dancer. There
was a second indictment for housebreaking against the prison-
ers, to which they also pleaded guilty. ---Each ten years' trans-
portation.

[aithne]

Thank you for that article. I suspected Thomas Jackson was an accomplice from the prison records that showed trial for same crime at same place and date. I wonder if they were friends or related (cousins maybe).

I’m also not sire that the earlier William Paulett, mariner, is his father. If it is his father, i don’t think he knew the family, based on naming traditions where family names tend to get recycled. His children were William, John, Arthur, Mary Alice, Edward, David, james Costille, George Frederick. I’m sure that these names came from him since his wife was Aboriginal and they wouldn’t have came from her family.  So i though Mary or Alice would be likely be his mother’s name, since it’s his daughter’s name but Mary is also his wife’s English name. Thank you for all that work though.

My sister managed to find his Will in State records office here so she’s ordered it and hopefully it gives us another clue.

[aithne]

From details in an online book,  there was a barque named Flora.

17th December 1831 a new master was appointed named William HARRIS.

The barque was lost in 1836; there is no mention of whether any of the crew were saved.

https://www.bristol.ac.uk/Depts/History/bristolrecordsociety/publications/brs15.pdf


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Thank you.
Unfortunately i can’t open the link on my phone, guessing it’s a big file, so i will have a look after my class today.

[Rena]

I'm embarrassed to find that I misread the article - not HARRIS but William LEWIS (hangs head in shame).

Attached is part of the entry for that Barque on page 33

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One other result for searching for "Flora" and William HARRIS" produced a University paper dated during the 1990s.  It's long so I didn't read it.   There's mention of a couple of barques and a private ship named the "Lady Flora".

https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/1349288/2/340191_vol2.pdf

[aithne]

I'm embarrassed to find that I misread the article - not HARRIS but William LEWIS (hangs head in shame).

Attached is part of the entry for that Barque on page 33

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One other result for searching for "Flora" and William HARRIS" produced a University paper dated during the 1990s.  It's long so I didn't read it.   There's mention of a couple of barques and a private ship named the "Lady Flora".

https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/1349288/2/340191_vol2.pdf

Ok. Thank you anyway. Funnily, William’s great grandchildren have the surname Lewis and one of them is William, named after him.

[aithne]

I don’t understand how to access trial documents with National Archives.
I know all the information i need to know to access the files (names, dates, location, sentencing) but to get a copy of it i need to document/file number, from what i can work out. But because it’s not digitised yet i can’t do that. It just keeps going around in a circle. 

[aithne]

If the William Paulet I am looking at is the right fellow, William Jr. never appears in the census with him, but as Jr. is a Harris, he could have been born to Miss Harris before they wed, and raised by this Uncle Hugh, grandparents or the mystery Charlotte Harris, or William had a wild night out.... or.. it's not the right one!  I have had no luck in finding William and Ann's marriage.

The notation of "alias Paulet" does not mean that your William was actually using an alias; only that he is associated with two surnames, so an out of wedlock birth, OR mother remarried is always a possibility.

The spelling of Paulet ranges with the number of L's and Ts':  Paulet  /Paullet/ Paullett etc.

The William I am looking at was born 1800, .  Index of the 1851:

Name:    William Paulett   Occ Mariner
Age:    51
Estimated Birth Year:    abt 1800
Relation:    Head
Spouse's Name:    Anne Paulett
Gender:    Male
Where born:    Stanton, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township:    Steynton
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:    
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town:    Milford
County/Island:    Pembrokeshire
Country:    Wales
Registration District:    Haverfordwest
Sub-registration District:    Milford
ED, institution, or vessel:    1f
Piece:    2477
Folio:    63
Page Number:    8
Household Schedule Number:    36

    
Name    Age
William Paulett    51  Occ Mariner
Anne Paulett    50
Amelia Paulett    20
Walter Paulett    16
Elizabeth Paulett    10
Ellin Paulett    9

Looking up Ellen at the GRO gives mmn as Harris:
POULLET, ELLEN        HARRIS     
GRO Reference: 1842  J Quarter in HAVERFORDWEST  Volume 26  Page 647

There is a daughter, Jane, who married William Lewis Davies.  She gives father as William Paulet, mariner.  In the 1881 census, she has her widowed mother, Ann, age 87, living with them.

Possible death for Ann:
Name:    Anne Paulet
Death Age:    87
Record Type:    Burial
Birth Date:    1796
Death Date:    abt 1883
Burial Date:    14 Jul 1883
Burial Place:    Pembroke Dock, St John, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Page number:    30

In 1841 this family was living at Rose Cottage, Steynton, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, Wales.
William   Paulet   Male   40   1801   Pembrokeshire, Wales  Occ Mariner
Anne   Paulet   Female   35   1806   Pembrokeshire, Wales
Jane   Paulet   Female   19   1822   Pembrokeshire, Wales
Anne   Paulet   Female   14   1827   Pembrokeshire, Wales
Amelia   Paulet   Female   12   1829   Pembrokeshire, Wales
Walter   Paulet   Male   5   1836   Pembrokeshire, Wales
Elizabeth   Paulet   Female   0   1841   Pembrokeshire, Wales

At one point, I think I saw the whole family in 1861, but now I can't get find it again.  If you think this family could be of interest, I will dig through my history.
Meanwhile, I will go scour for  Jr. in the 1841, and hope he shows up with a Hugh, or a Charlotte!

I have since found that William and Anne did have a son William. B.1823.
So older than the William i’m searching for but since we don’t know for sure what his date of birth actually is, i’m keeping an open mind and will investigate further.
There is a William Pawlett on the 1841 census listed by himself aged 17, and i think the residence is actually a hostel so i’m guessing he had already left home by 17, and if it’s my William, then maybe he was older than we thought, and that previous listing saying he was 19 and not 16 is actually more accurate