Looking for advice finding the Morgans

[Mojo1]

Thank you for the welcome and the info 

I've done my own tree and a couple of others. I'm strictly an amateur  but I find it so fascinating. I've not hit a wall like this before!!

[mckha489]

If there wasn’t such a risk they would be useless, I would buy both death certificates and then see if you can work back from both of them to rule them in or out. But you could end up with two men dying in hospital with the death reported by the Occupier, so telling you absolutely nothing.

I presume you have looked for newspaper notices
Wills.
Old phone books? 
Electoral rolls.

[CaroleW]

Hi

Unfortunately without knowing more about him & confirming he is deceased - we can’t take the chance of posting details.

Rootschat has a strict “no living persons” policy to protect peoples privacy.

We can’t be sure about either of the 2 deaths at the moment as there are no guarantees he remained in the Midlands area.  There are no Midlands births 1933-1935 so if he was born in Ireland he may have returned there.

[Mojo1]

Hi

Unfortunately without knowing more about him & confirming he is deceased - we can’t take the chance of posting details.

Rootschat has a strict “no living persons” policy to protect peoples privacy.

We can’t be sure about either of the 2 deaths at the moment as there are no guarantees he remained in the Midlands area.  There are no Midlands births 1933-1935 so if he was born in Ireland he may have returned there.

I absolutely appreciate that. It's more Henry Morgan and back we're interested in.
However I have found a birth which matches the marriage cert and one of the deaths, in the Midlands. Mother's maiden name is Donnelly which is Irish. The birth is in Lanchester 1935. Nothing is known about the transfer from Ireland to England so this is possible.  Certainly worth following up I think.

[MonicaL]

The Lanchester birth you have found, there are nine births in Lanchester starting from 1920-1935 with the combination of Morgan/Donnelly.

You mentioned a possible brother called Patrick for Gerald earlier. There is a Peter born in 1921. Peter and Patrick are first name variants.

Hard to say if they are connected to Gerald with what we have so far...

Monica

[jonw65]

I found a Henry Morgan dob 1909 death 1953 south Dublin which fits the timeline but I can't find anything else so I can't assume it's right.

That chap was a shop proprietor.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1953/04460/4168222.pdf

Electoral rolls.

Birmingham electoral registers for 1957 are on ancestry in Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

Gerald Morgan, 40, in the Birmingham Daily Post in Dec 1975. Not a good news item.
A death in Durham in 2016 of a Gerald Morgan born 1935. Lanchester man?

[jonw65]

Mother's maiden name is Donnelly which is Irish. The birth is in Lanchester 1935. Certainly worth following up I think.

Follow up Monica's nine births. Some may be open in the 1939 Register, possibly leading to the parents.

[MonicaL]

Birmingham electoral registers for 1957 are on ancestry in Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

Likely entry for Gerald and wife Margaret in the 1965 ERs at Birkenshaw Rd.

Can I ask you whether you have details on Margaret? Maybe establishing her death details would help you here with what you are trying to confirm. Sometimes, as you know, you have to go front and sideways before you can work back. This period you are in is always hard isn't it 

Monica

[jonw65]

Mention a Gerald Morgan at 34 Francis Street (Duddeston), Birmingham, in 1957
With Annie Morgan.
Go back to 1955, only Annie Morgan listed there.
Which might open up the slight possibility of Annie being mum to that Gerald
The 1956 electoral register might have helped. And the 1958!

Don't forget that - if he was Irish - Gerald might have been from Northern Ireland.
Online, GRONI has birth records "over 100 years old", I don't think there are free indexes available anywhere for NI after partition.