Author Topic: Death of Eliza Martha Watterson, nee Martin, 1902, Irwin, Bonneville Co., Idaho  (Read 1595 times)

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I have searched all over Ireland for the death of Eliza Martha Watterson, widow of Leonard Watterson, and just couldn't find it. Then today, I found that she had died 1902 in Irwin, Bonneville Co., Idaho. Wonder whatever took her there. She did have a son Henry in USA but Henry's wife died in New York so I presumed that Henry also died in New York. But Idaho?
Would love her obit or death certificate to verify this is the right person. Her father should be Alexander.
Thank you
Peggy
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There is no source for that information on the ancestry tree.
It looks confusing because another tree states Martha Watterson (Martin) died 1903 Swan Valley, Bonneville, Idaho but the husband was John and again no source info.

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Thanks Sandra. It just doesn't seem right that she died in Idaho. I have a feeling it is not the right person.
Peggy
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When Leonard Watterson, her supposed husband, died in 1892 in Cranfield, he states he is a widower which means Eliza must have died before 1892, if that information is correct. My gut says that that Leonard is not her Leonard. Further research needed.
Peggy
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Sorry. Had another look around earlier today and nothing comes up for Eliza Martha Matterson so the family trees are not reliable as we suspected.   :-\

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Yesterday, I decided to look up Leonard and Eliza's son Henry who went to New York. Henry married Lucinda Ellis in Currin, Maghera, Ireland Apr 23, 1867 and records indicate that they immediately emigrated. I find them in Brooklyn in 1870 with a baby Elizabeth. Then I find Lucinda in 1895 in the City Directory as a widow, living at 94 Graham St.. She is still a widow in 1900 living at 94 Graham with son Henry and daughter Mamie born 1877. Says she had 7 children, 2 living. In 1905, Lucinda is living with son Henry in Brooklyn but I don't have the image for address. In 1910, Lucinda is living with married son Henry, his wife Lena aka Pauline at 4861 Fulton St. In 1911, I find Lucinda's death at 1486 Fulton Street, with parents listed as John Elias aka Ellis and Sarah Reynold so  I know it is the correct Lucinda as at her marriage her father is given as John Ellis.
As per online family tree, Lucinda's death was 1911 and that was correct. However, Henry's death is given as 1921 and that doesn't seem to be the case. There is another Henry and Lucinda Watterson couple but I was careful to follow the addresses and ages to be sure I was correct. I never did find Henry's death.
In 1900, Lucinda says she had 7 children, 2 living. In 1910, she says 7 children, 3 living which I think is correct. I didn't find Henry and Lucinda in 1880. Censuses can be useful if they happen to have siblings or parents living in the household, although I doubt that Henry's mother Eliza could have afforded a trip to New York if the family was destitute as Henry's father Leonard's death indicates in 1892, if that was the correct Leonard's death in Cranfield, Co. Tyrone.
This morning, I have written to Evergreen Cemetery where Lucinda is buried, also her daughter Elizabeth W. Johnston, born 1870, to see if perhaps Henry is buried with them. Findagrave says only 8% of cemetery photographed.
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I have already heard from Evergreens Cemetery and Henry is not buried with Lucinda and their daughter Elizabeth W. Johnston in Nazareth Lot#450. So I have now written to Cypress Hills Cemetery where two of their infant/child daughters are buried to see if Henry is with them.
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Mamie Waterson/Zindel - The Brooklyn Daily Eagle Brooklyn, New York
28 Jan 1955, Fri   Page 9

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/77721845/obituary-for-mamie-zindel/

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There was a death of a Lucinda Waterson in 1882 (born 1877)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W8F-GFP

and another Lucinda buried 1 August 1884

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WJL-TT1

Henry Waterson must have been around in 1883/1884 ?

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