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Re: Alice Curtiss who is she?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 15 May 21 09:54 BST (UK) »
Marriage - 15 February 1862 - Runcorn:

Joshua Curtis, full age, bachelor, Waterman.  Father:  William, Carpet Weaver
Maria Worrall, full age, spinster.  Father:  Charles, Waterman

Neither signed the register.
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Re: Alice Curtiss who is she?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 15 May 21 10:04 BST (UK) »
Baptism - 17 November 1878 - Runcorn

Margaret Ann - daughter of Joshua (Waterman) and Maria Curtis of Runcorn.

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Re: Alice Curtiss who is she?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 15 May 21 17:19 BST (UK) »
Wonder what others think of the below-am I going down a rabbit hole here.

The marriage ref found by PaulineJ   https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLQH-Y2B9 indicates Georges father as William Griffin. I cannot for the life of me find a GRO record for this marriage-can anyone else.

My experience tends to show that various types of work form close communities. George in 1901/11 census is a boatman (barge on canals). He probably learnt his skills from his father. On that basis could the following be "our George".

1891 census rg12 1124 122 26
William Griffin 40 Master (barge) born Wellington Staffs
William son    15  helper
George  son   13  helper born Northamptonshire
John  son         7  helper

1881 census  rg11 1560 85 19

William Griffin 31
Fanny             28
William             4             Braunston Northants
Fanny               2months     "
John                 2                2

Fanny was born as Fanny Millard Griffin mq 1881 mmn Millard.
William mq 1877 mmn Millard
John mq 1879 mmn Millard
All children born reg dist Daventry which covers Braunston

William and Fanny married 4.6.1876 Warwick--image on FindMyPast-William occ Boatman

What throws this a bit is 2 George's are born with mmn Millard 1882 & 1884 and they would be to young to marry in 1894. Our George was born c 1874 according to marriage so born c1874 pre Williams marriage to Fanny. Could he have been born as a Millard and adopted the Griffin surname.

John

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could this be George's birth
MILLARD, GEORGE       - 
GRO Reference: 1874  S Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 142

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Re: Alice Curtiss who is she?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 15 May 21 17:23 BST (UK) »
Which 1901 and 1911 are you looking at?
You give no reference, and the uxbridge one I ref'd is a brickmaker
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Re: Alice Curtiss who is she?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 15 May 21 17:46 BST (UK) »
1901 RG13 2549 41 40
1911 21603  on this census the mark of George Griffin suggesting he doesn't write?

They are also together on the 1939 register with dob's

Does that answer your questions

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Re: Alice Curtiss who is she?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 15 May 21 17:48 BST (UK) »
I don't have paid access to any sites.
Can you give a free-to-view URL?
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Re: Alice Curtiss who is she?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 15 May 21 18:05 BST (UK) »
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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Re: Alice Curtiss who is she?
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Re: Alice Curtiss who is she?
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 16 May 21 12:44 BST (UK) »
I am still doing my friend's tree and can't believe she hasn't sacked me ! I have Alice Curtiss marrying a George Griffin 1895 They have 6 children. I think Alice's dad was Joshua Curtis but can't find a mum for Alice.  Also I can't find a mother for George I have his birth 1874 in Uxbridge but no death dates for either of them.  Sorry to be so vague and thank you for any help.
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According to 1911 census they had 8 children, 4 still living 4 died. 1901 census appears to show a Maud, but closer inspection of image is really Maria born mq 1901.

So there is Maria, Henry, Elizabeth and Sarah. Believe the other's were a William mq1896-96 probably born in 1895, George mq 1896-1896,Joseph 1897-98 and possibly another  George mq 1902

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