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Offline Duneane

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Russian Polish Ancestor - Birth Location
« on: Saturday 15 May 21 14:29 BST (UK) »
Hi there...
I have a Polish ancestor Stanley Zyke, who was born in Russian Poland (1911 census) on the 21st May, 1878 (1939 Register). I also have his marriage certificate, Church Marriage Register entry and death certificate. None of these records tell me whereabouts in Russian Poland he was born. I’ve approached the Police Museum to check any Alien Registers and also the Coroners Office for details of his inquest when he died - none of them give his birth details. He was also in the R.F.A. (#5080) during WW1 but there is no service record that I can find.
Can anybody think where else I could look, to find his region or town of birth?
Thanks for any help.
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Re: Russian Polish Ancestor - Birth Location
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 August 21 23:10 BST (UK) »
Hi!
Are you sure the name of Zyke is correct? I don't think so. It might have sounded like Zicke. Stanley is the equivalent of the Polish name Stanisław. There are too many unknowns here to help you. Do you have any document where his name is written?
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Re: Russian Polish Ancestor - Birth Location
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 August 21 04:02 BST (UK) »
Hello Jozef. May I ask you a question please?  :)

With Polish surnames are you able to identify a region that people with that surname are likely to have come from?

(This can be done to some extent with English surnames - you can sometimes get a very rough idea where a family originates based on their surname because they are often regional.)

Duneane, have you looked for records of naturalisation (if these exist). Was his wife Polish too?

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Re: Russian Polish Ancestor - Birth Location
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 August 21 08:25 BST (UK) »
Hi - on his marriage certificate both him and his wife can’t write. They both mark with an ‘X’ and the registrar has written their names as ZYKE and WIZODSKI.
On the 1911 census, his family entries are written with an ‘i’ as ZIKE and his signature is spelled as Zike... but it looks exactly the same handwriting as the Enumerator, so I’m guessing he still couldn’t write and it was filled in for him.
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 August 21 08:27 BST (UK) »
I’ve also checked naturalization records for him and his Polish wife ‘Lizzie Wizodski’, but can’t find anything.
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Re: Russian Polish Ancestor - Birth Location
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 August 21 09:25 BST (UK) »
Wizodski is the male form of the surname, female is Wizodska.
Assuming Lizzie is Elizabeth - Elżbieta in Polish, Ela for short.


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Re: Russian Polish Ancestor - Birth Location
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 August 21 19:59 BST (UK) »
Hello Jozef. May I ask you a question please?  :)

With Polish surnames are you able to identify a region that people with that surname are likely to have come from?

(This can be done to some extent with English surnames - you can sometimes get a very rough idea where a family originates based on their surname because they are often regional.)

Duneane, have you looked for records of naturalisation (if these exist). Was his wife Polish too?
You can find out by name someone came from in the region only on the basis of databases.
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Re: Russian Polish Ancestor - Birth Location
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 August 21 20:02 BST (UK) »
Wizodski is the male form of the surname, female is Wizodska.
Assuming Lizzie is Elizabeth - Elżbieta in Polish, Ela for short.


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The problem is that in Poland there is no such surname as Wizodski or Wizodska. You have to look for a surname that sounds similar.
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Re: Russian Polish Ancestor - Birth Location
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 17 August 21 20:53 BST (UK) »
I think this name could have sounded like Wysocki.
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