Missing 1841 Census/Struggle to find parents - please help!

[jonw65]

Ann Wall Baptism 29 Oct 1832    Shoreditch St Leonard, Hackney
Father:   Thomas Wall, butcher Mother:   Ann abode Long Alley

I like the Long Alley abode 

[Ladyhawk]

10 May 1858 St Philip, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets
Mary Wall age 18, Ball Alley
Father:   Thomas Wall, butcher
Spouse:    William French

9 Nov 1862 St James, Shoreditch, Hackney
Thomas John Wall age 20, butcher , 4 Ball Alley
Father: Thomas Wall, butcher
Spouse:    Sarah Law

25 Dec 1873 St James, Shoreditch, Hackney
Martha Wall, age 21, 26 Whitecross Place
Father: Thomas Wall, butcher, deceased
Spouse:    Thomas Kennely

[Ladyhawk]

Is this one of theirs?

WALL, ELLEN   
Mother's Maiden Surname: WRIGHT 
GRO Reference: 1842  S Quarter in THE SHOREDITCH DISTRICT  Volume 02  Page 350

Possibly died in Shoreditch in 1848, age 6

Baptism at St James, Shoreditch, 15 Feb 1843
Ellen
dr. of Thomas + Ann Wall
3 Tobacco Roll Court, Long Alley
father Journeyman Butcher

Helen Wall Bpt. 18 Sep 1837   Shoreditch St Leonard, Hackney
Father:   Thomas Wall, butcher Mother:    Ann, Long Alley

Hellen WALL mmn WRIGHT 
GRO Reference: 1838  M Quarter in THE SHOREDITCH DISTRICT  Volume 02  Page 296

Possible death 

Helen WALL age 1 
GRO Reference: 1838  D Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 02  Page 413

[airsle]

I really appreciate your help, I'll get back on this tonight when I've finished work and will look through all your posts properly - again, thank you as I had no clue where else to look!! 

[alillyston]

Is this one of theirs?
WALL, ELLEN   
Mother's Maiden Surname: WRIGHT 
GRO Reference: 1842  S Quarter in THE SHOREDITCH DISTRICT  Volume 02  Page 350

Possibly died in Shoreditch in 1848, age 6

Baptism at St James, Shoreditch, 15 Feb 1843
Ellen
dr. of Thomas + Ann Wall
3 Tobacco Roll Court, Long Alley
father Journeyman Butcher

1841 census, Tobacco Roll Court, not many people, there is a Wright family, no idea at all if connected.
piece 706 book 12 folio 28 page 18
Image
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS6P-6HGZ

Transcript
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQV8-ZYK

Yes to Ellen - I think so, thank you! As for the other one, doesn't look like it as the names don't match of the kids too.. Could be related in some way but not sure how.

[alillyston]

Marriage of Thomas Wall and Ann Wright was 21 Feb 1830, Lambeth
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9X7-J97J-4

Possible Wrights of Tobacco Roll Court in 41?
WRIGHT, ANN       
Mother's Maiden Surname: WRIGGET 
GRO Reference: 1838  D Quarter in THE SHOREDITCH DISTRICT  Volume 02  Page 324

Ann was baptized 30 Dec 1838, daughter of Charles + Jane Wright, abode Long Alley, father a Glass Frame Maker

Poss marriage at Lambeth
13 May 1827
Charles William Wright + Jane Wingyett
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9X7-X6VH

Charles was a minor, a witness was Chas Jeremiah Wright!

May be no connection at all to Ann Wall, of course. But you never know!

Thank you for the link to the marriage - it was 1829 on Myheritage listing! As for tobacco roll court... oooh that's a possibility! One to follow up

[alillyston]

Here she is!
Baptized 16 October 1835, St Matthew Bethnal Green
Ann
born 19 Jan 1811
parents Charles Jeremiah + Mary Wright
abode Long Alley
father Looking Glass Frame Maker
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS6R-QQ7G-H

You're amazing!! Thank you so much, it amazes me how fast another set of eyes (or more likely more practice lol!) can solve one of my walls.

[alillyston]

10 May 1858 St Philip, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets
Mary Wall age 18, Ball Alley
Father:   Thomas Wall, butcher
Spouse:    William French

9 Nov 1862 St James, Shoreditch, Hackney
Thomas John Wall age 20, butcher , 4 Ball Alley
Father: Thomas Wall, butcher
Spouse:    Sarah Law

25 Dec 1873 St James, Shoreditch, Hackney
Martha Wall, age 21, 26 Whitecross Place
Father: Thomas Wall, butcher, deceased
Spouse:    Thomas Kennely

My direct ancestor was Martha.

Thank you so much! You've been invaluable

[alillyston]

Here she is!
Baptized 16 October 1835, St Matthew Bethnal Green
Ann
born 19 Jan 1811
parents Charles Jeremiah + Mary Wright
abode Long Alley
father Looking Glass Frame Maker
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS6R-QQ7G-H

Oh wait, hang on - I'm a bit confused. I know the parents are Ann Wright and Thomas Wall because of the other censuses - so where did Charles and Mary come from? They wouldn't be the right parents?

My direct ancestor is Martha Wall from that family so I've been tracking back through her, their daughter (her sister) is a bit of a side one because she is so much older than the others so thought that might be a way to track back more