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George Spoors mrg Elizabeth Willans 1834 Whalton, NBL
« on: Tuesday 18 May 21 00:33 BST (UK) »
Hello all! This post MAY relate back to my earlier post of yet another Spoor/Wealleans marriage. This one has some confusing (to me!) issues. Firstly, one on line source (IGI) indicates that George Spoors was b 15 May 1811 in Whittingham to James Spoors and Isabella Vass. The "problem" is his spouse, Elizabeth Willans who is described in one source (My Heritage) as being born 1812 in Framlington; another source (Ancestry) shows her born 1816 and died 1851. Ancestry also shows George Spoors being born in North Shields! Since I can't seem to find an appropriate George in any census, I am wondering if, perhaps, there may, in fact, be two different George Spoors. That forename, however, is fairly uncommon in those Spoor men I have found.  Can any keen-eyed Rootschatter please make sense of these two different sources? Thank you kindly, Sincerely, patrexjax
ARCHIBALD/ARCHBALD: Tweedmouth, NBL; CHARLTON: Ponteland, NBL;
ERRINGTON: West Denton, NBL; 
FAIRLESS: Longbenton, NBL;
HARDING: Hollinside, Co. Durham;
KING: Newcastle-on-Tyne & Berwickshire;
LOCKEY: Ryton, Whickham, Co. Durham & YKS; NICHOLSON: Ponteland, Newburn, NBL; PAXTON: Norham, NBL;
PAULIN: Berwickshire; REAY, Ponteland, NBL;
SCOTT: Norham, NBL; SELBY: Tweedmouth, NBL;
SLIGH: Berwickshire; SPOOR: Whickham & Ryton;
WIDDRINGTON: NBL

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Re: George Spoors mrg Elizabeth Willans 1834 Whalton, NBL
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 May 21 05:32 BST (UK) »
Pretty sure there are 2 different George SPOORS.

In 1851 you can see George (41, Born Whittingham, husbandman) at Longbenton with wife Elizabeth (38, Framlington) and daughter Mary (13, Warkworth)
HO 107/2411 pg 1

Also in 1851 at Little Lumley, Durham is another George SPOORS (widow, 41, coal miner, born Northumberland) with son Matthew.
HO 107/ 2394 pg14
They are also in Harraton, Durham in 1861 (George, 52, coal miner with I presume new wife Mary,48 and Matthew, 13)
RG 9/3762 pg22
In 1881 this George (70, coal miner) says born North Shields
RG 11/4982 pg13

Modified to add:
Didn't look on the next page of George and Elizabeth at Longbenton, so didn't see more children:
Elizabeth (10, Wallsend), Ellen (7, Earsdon), Jane (5, Earsdon) and James (2, Longbenton).

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Re: George Spoors mrg Elizabeth Willans 1834 Whalton, NBL
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 May 21 05:42 BST (UK) »
Also in 1841, George (30, ag lab), Elizabeth (25) are with  Ann (6), Mary (4) and Elizabeth (6 months) at Earsdon.
HO 107/820/15 pg3.

Elizabeth SPOORS birth registration Tynemouth (25/430) Dec qtr 1840 has mother's maiden name WEALANDS.


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Re: George Spoors mrg Elizabeth Willans 1834 Whalton, NBL
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 May 21 05:56 BST (UK) »
another source (Ancestry) shows her born 1816 and died 1851.

The only Elizabeth SPOORS death I can see in 1851 was registered at Newcastle upon Tyne (25/254), aged 1.


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Re: George Spoors mrg Elizabeth Willans 1834 Whalton, NBL
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 May 21 13:12 BST (UK) »
7 George Spours/Spoors born c 1800-1811 Northumberland
1805 has parents as James/Elizabeth nee Vass
1807 has parents as Matthew/Mary nee Wilson, 2nd son" " N. Of So. Shields" *"Mary N. Of Edinburgh"
1811 has parents James/Isaba nee Vass

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Re: George Spoors mrg Elizabeth Willans 1834 Whalton, NBL
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18 May 21 15:23 BST (UK) »
Hello maddys52 and trish1120! THANK YOU so very much for this "gold mine" of information! Clearly, I will be sorting through this information most of today! It appears that the surname Vass figures into the equation with a James Spoor marrying, possibly two different Vass women...(maybe sisters?) At any rate, pure speculation on my part as I have just awakened to see these fantastic responses! Many thanks to you both for your help. Most sincerely, patrexjax
ARCHIBALD/ARCHBALD: Tweedmouth, NBL; CHARLTON: Ponteland, NBL;
ERRINGTON: West Denton, NBL; 
FAIRLESS: Longbenton, NBL;
HARDING: Hollinside, Co. Durham;
KING: Newcastle-on-Tyne & Berwickshire;
LOCKEY: Ryton, Whickham, Co. Durham & YKS; NICHOLSON: Ponteland, Newburn, NBL; PAXTON: Norham, NBL;
PAULIN: Berwickshire; REAY, Ponteland, NBL;
SCOTT: Norham, NBL; SELBY: Tweedmouth, NBL;
SLIGH: Berwickshire; SPOOR: Whickham & Ryton;
WIDDRINGTON: NBL

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Re: George Spoors mrg Elizabeth Willans 1834 Whalton, NBL
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 May 21 02:18 BST (UK) »
7 George Spours/Spoors born c 1800-1811 Northumberland
1805 has parents as James/Elizabeth nee Vass
1807 has parents as Matthew/Mary nee Wilson, 2nd son" " N. Of So. Shields" *"Mary N. Of Edinburgh"
1811 has parents James/Isaba nee Vass

Haven't seen the images, but FreeReg has further detail too:
For the 1811 Whittingham baptism it notes James and Isabella lived at Great Ryle. "1st son, Father: Native of Fenrother, Mother: Native of this parish" and father's occupation - Hind.

The 1805 Whittingham baptism has James and Elizabeth lived at Eslington. "1st son, Father: Native of Hebburn, Mother: Native of this Parish" and father's occupation - labourer.


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Re: George Spoors mrg Elizabeth Willans 1834 Whalton, NBL
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 May 21 18:32 BST (UK) »
Hello again maddys52! I have to leave shortly to tend to a medical appointment, BUT, I have looked at yuor message and am wondering about that 1805 entry: my knowledgeof Northumberland georgraphy is pretty skimpy AND I was further confused by Google and Genuki: fromwhat I cold see, it looks like there are TWO Hebburns..... ??? one in Northumberland and one in Co. Durham East of Gateshead.  Am I totally wrong in assuming (ahem!) that the entry would refer to the Northumberland Hebburn..... I hesitate to make any assumptions in family history!!  Your comments would be appreciated on this matter. AND, when I return from my errand, I will delve into your responses!  thanks so much for your continued interest! Most sincerely, patrexjax
ARCHIBALD/ARCHBALD: Tweedmouth, NBL; CHARLTON: Ponteland, NBL;
ERRINGTON: West Denton, NBL; 
FAIRLESS: Longbenton, NBL;
HARDING: Hollinside, Co. Durham;
KING: Newcastle-on-Tyne & Berwickshire;
LOCKEY: Ryton, Whickham, Co. Durham & YKS; NICHOLSON: Ponteland, Newburn, NBL; PAXTON: Norham, NBL;
PAULIN: Berwickshire; REAY, Ponteland, NBL;
SCOTT: Norham, NBL; SELBY: Tweedmouth, NBL;
SLIGH: Berwickshire; SPOOR: Whickham & Ryton;
WIDDRINGTON: NBL

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Re: George Spoors mrg Elizabeth Willans 1834 Whalton, NBL
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 20 May 21 01:06 BST (UK) »
After studying a map carefully, I am concluding the Hebburn we are focused on would be in Northumberland..... Fingers crossed! patrexjax
ARCHIBALD/ARCHBALD: Tweedmouth, NBL; CHARLTON: Ponteland, NBL;
ERRINGTON: West Denton, NBL; 
FAIRLESS: Longbenton, NBL;
HARDING: Hollinside, Co. Durham;
KING: Newcastle-on-Tyne & Berwickshire;
LOCKEY: Ryton, Whickham, Co. Durham & YKS; NICHOLSON: Ponteland, Newburn, NBL; PAXTON: Norham, NBL;
PAULIN: Berwickshire; REAY, Ponteland, NBL;
SCOTT: Norham, NBL; SELBY: Tweedmouth, NBL;
SLIGH: Berwickshire; SPOOR: Whickham & Ryton;
WIDDRINGTON: NBL