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GENTLES, PATRICK, SHARPE and SCOTT
« on: Wednesday 19 May 21 11:44 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have been trying to sort out the early life of my gggranny Agnes GENTLES SHARPE. She was born in Paisley in 1843 though I cannot subsequently find her in any census records until she turns up in London in the 1871 census. Her parents were Janet GENTLES and Andrew SHARPE who married in Paisley and, as far as I know, had all their children there.

She married Alexander STEVENSON SCOTT (1834-1877), an engraver from Edinburgh, in October 1861. They had 6 children. The first, Agnes GENTLES PATRICK SCOTT was born in Duddington in August 1861. I initially doubted this record because of the two dates but have a photograph of the mother and child. By 1866 the family were in London. 

Agnes GENTLES SHARPE was a legatee of Robert PATRICK who was at 4 Bank Street Paisley when he died. Unfortunately I have no will to cast light on the relationship, only financial records. If I have the right one, Robert PATRICK married Agnes GENTLES in Paisley in 1831.

Has anyone got any light they can shed on this consortium of families, clarifying relationships and/or antecedents?

   

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Re: GENTLES, PATRICK, SHARPE and SCOTT
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 May 21 12:50 BST (UK) »
I guess you may have seen this on SP?

Robert Patrick Inventory only Paisley Sheriff Court 16/2/1880
sometime residing in Bank Street, Paisley, latterly in Canal Street, there, d. 23/09/1878 at Paisley, testate
SC58/42/47

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Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: GENTLES, PATRICK, SHARPE and SCOTT
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 May 21 13:06 BST (UK) »
This is how the record appears on SP.

AGNES GENTLES SHARP      ANDREW SHARP/JANET GENTLES   Born 24 MAY 1842   Baptised 12 JUNE 1842   PAISLEY - GEORGE STREET UNITED SECESSION

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Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: GENTLES, PATRICK, SHARPE and SCOTT
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 May 21 13:09 BST (UK) »

I note the family were at Incle St. Paisley (Abbey) 1841 & 1851 below.

SHARP   Andrew   Head   M   M   51   Handloom Weaver   RFW   Paisley      
SHARP   Janet   Wife   M   F   45   Weaver Pirn Winder   RFW   Paisley      
SHARP   Margret   Dau   U   F   21   Shawl Sewer Warehouse   RFW   Paisley      
SHARP   Andrew   Son   -   M   11   School   RFW   Paisley      
SHARP   Robert   Son   -   M   8   School   RFW   Paisley      
SHARP   James   Son   -   M   6      RFW   Paisley      
SHARP   Janet   Dau   -   F   4      RFW   Paisley      
HART   Ellisabeth   -   U   F   18   Servant   RFW   Paisley      

Strange that Agnes is not with them. I do not see her elsewhere in Scotland. Also I do not see birth records for any of the children above in Renfrewshire?


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Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.


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Re: GENTLES, PATRICK, SHARPE and SCOTT
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 May 21 13:35 BST (UK) »
On the 1861 census at 6,East Buchanan Street Abbey Burgh
Robert Patrick age 57
Agnes Patrick age 60
Agnes L Patrick age 16 born Paisley ( niece ) ???
Also Alexander Scott 26 born Edinburgh ( artist engraver )

Don't see Agnes with her family on other census forms so maybe this is a possibility

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Re: GENTLES, PATRICK, SHARPE and SCOTT
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 May 21 14:17 BST (UK) »
This is how the record appears on SP.

AGNES GENTLES SHARP      ANDREW SHARP/JANET GENTLES   Born 24 MAY 1842   Baptised 12 JUNE 1842   PAISLEY - GEORGE STREET UNITED SECESSION

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Appears to have been a twin birth for Robert Patrick Sharp 24 May 1842

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Re: GENTLES, PATRICK, SHARPE and SCOTT
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 May 21 14:49 BST (UK) »
You are right Rosie, strange that did not show up on SP when I did a surname search?

ROBERT PATRICK SHARP
ANDREW SHARP/JANET GENTLES
24 MAY 1842
12 JUNE 1842
PAISLEY - GEORGE STREET UNITED SECESSION
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: GENTLES, PATRICK, SHARPE and SCOTT
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 May 21 14:53 BST (UK) »
Others are there now.

John 1837
Andrew 1839
James 1844
Jessie 1847

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Re: GENTLES, PATRICK, SHARPE and SCOTT
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19 May 21 15:00 BST (UK) »
Yes think something funny is going on I thought it was my internet must be gremlins  ;D

Rosie