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Mary Park Marriage
« on: Wednesday 19 May 21 20:22 BST (UK) »
Hi
I'm looking for who Mary Park Married only 2 in the Carlisle district that fit one in 1848 and the other in 1850 I favour the one in 1850 she is living with her mother and sister in the 1851 census as married but ditto as for the surname Park
any help would be appreciated

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Smith,Tabbnor,Nicholson,Arkley,Hewison,Dobson,Melvil,Thompson,Mc conkey/Conkey,Park,Howe,Chapelhow,Allen

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Re: Mary Park Marriage
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 May 21 20:43 BST (UK) »
What are the other names in the year and qtr of the marriage  registration?

Added : did you try to locate the marriage using marriage locater?


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Re: Mary Park Marriage
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 May 21 20:50 BST (UK) »
Can you give her details so we can look at the 1851 entry - birthyear/birthplace etc
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Re: Mary Park Marriage
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 May 21 22:50 BST (UK) »
If this is the marriage reference  Dec 1850  Carlisle    25   52 you were looking at for Mary Park
if it is it looks as if she married James Pringle

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James Pringle
Marriage 05 Nov 1850 Saint Cuthbert,Carlisle,Cumberland
Spouse:   Mary Pack

They can be found on 1861 c Piece:   3920 Folio:   62 Page Number:   6

birth of son Nicholas confirms mmn

James Pringle   31 pipe manufacturer
MARY Pringle   31 Carlisle
Nicholas Pringle   9
James Pringle   8
Alexander Pringle   6
Catherine Pringle   6
Elizabeth Jane Pringle   2
Mary Ann Pringle   9/12
Samuel Pringle   18 brother

PRINGLE, NICHOLAS   mmn PARK
GRO Reference: 1851  S Quarter in CARLISLE  Volume 25  Page 83   

and 1851 c Piece:   2430 Folio:   113 Page Number:   49
James Pringle   21 pipe maker
MARY Pringle   20

Can you give her details so we can look at the 1851 entry - birthyear/birthplace etc

As asked by CaroleW we need more details on your Mary
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Re: Mary Park Marriage
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 20 May 21 12:48 BST (UK) »
many thanks
Smith,Tabbnor,Nicholson,Arkley,Hewison,Dobson,Melvil,Thompson,Mc conkey/Conkey,Park,Howe,Chapelhow,Allen

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Re: Mary Park Marriage
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 20 May 21 14:48 BST (UK) »
From my reply

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Can you give her details so we can look at the 1851 entry - birthyear/birthplace etc

From Ladyhawk's reply

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As asked by CaroleW we need more details on your Mary
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Mary Park Marriage
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 20 May 21 15:43 BST (UK) »
Hi in the 51 census living with her mother Mary and her sister Ann under the  name Park in Carlisle she was born about 1831 Carlisle   just checked the 51 census for James Pringle the Mary he married is there with him so it cant be the right Mary Park im looking for so maybe she got married in 48 then
Marriages Dec 1848   (>99%)
PARK    Mary        Carlisle    25   82
Smith,Tabbnor,Nicholson,Arkley,Hewison,Dobson,Melvil,Thompson,Mc conkey/Conkey,Park,Howe,Chapelhow,Allen

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Re: Mary Park Marriage
« Reply #7 on: Friday 21 May 21 11:49 BST (UK) »
If you look at the original entry her sister Ann aged 29 is shown as married but is shown as surname Park.  The 2 Thompson grandchildren are hers - GRO online shows mmn Park

Although not very clear - I think Mary is shown as unmarried and in 1861 is a servant in a school in Holme Low Cumberland
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Mary Park Marriage
« Reply #8 on: Friday 21 May 21 11:50 BST (UK) »
Hi in the 51 census living with her mother Mary and her sister Ann under the  name Park in Carlisle she was born about 1831 Carlisle

For others looking to help the 1851 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGKY-BYG
(on original entry Mary & Ann's pob dittoed Scotland Piece:2430 Folio:375 Page    12)

Mary PARK Head Wid   52   winder for weaver
Ann      Daughter   Mar   29 machine winder
Mary    Daughter   Mar   20   Carlisle, Cumberland, machine winder
Thomas Thompson   Grand Son 9   Carlisle, Cumberland
William Thompson   Grand Son   7   Carlisle, Cumberland

Are Thomas & William Thompson Ann's children?

THOMPSON, THOMAS  ELLICE   mmn PARK
GRO Reference: 1841  D Quarter in CARLISLE  Volume 25  Page 68

THOMPSON, WILLIAM   mmn PARK
GRO Reference: 1843  D Quarter in CARLISLE  Volume 25  Page 59   

jakpeter

Do you know the name of Mary's father?

Do you have the Park family on the 1841 census?

maybe she got married in 48 then

Marriages Dec 1848   
PARK    Mary        Carlisle    25   82

other persons named on Dec 1848

FORSTER    Francis       
McInnsaby    Elizabeth       
Mealy    Mary       
REYNOLDS  Garrett       
Scott    Mary       
WALKER    James       
WILMOTT    Thomas   

I can't see a transcription of the 1848 marriage

GRO indexes have these birth entries but you would have thought William would be on 1851 census

WALKER, WILLIAM       mmn PARK
GRO Reference: 1849  D Quarter in CARLISLE  Volume 25  Page 83

WALKER, JOHN    mmn   PARK 
GRO Reference: 1852  D Quarter in CARLISLE  Volume 10B  Page 331

I cannot tell you if it relates to the 1848 marriage of Mary Park to a possible James Walker

You would need to obtain the 1848 marriage certificate to confirm details

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