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Re: Seaching PRs and came across these symbols
« Reply #9 on: Friday 21 May 21 11:04 BST (UK) »
Intriguing!
Maybe the planetary symbols represent the time of day?: The Chaldean Sequence allocates a planet for each hour of the day...the symbols on the document are the Sun, Mercury and Saturn. Could the word at the top of the column possibly be "Hour" ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_hours

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Re: Seaching PRs and came across these symbols
« Reply #10 on: Friday 21 May 21 11:44 BST (UK) »
"A new church of limestone was built on the same site, and during the rebuilding, were discovered a Saxon piscina and a Norman sandstone arch, with chevron carvings, enclosing the twelve signs of the Zodiac. Supposedly, the emblems of Taurus, Cancer and Virgo were excavated, that prompted the current Victorian carving that forms the Zodical frieze over the inner south doorway which contains fragments of the Norman masonry."

The above is a Wikipedia extract, which details the History of 'All Hallows Parish Church', Bispham, Lancashire.
This seems to indicate that Christian worship, had an affinity with Astrology, sometime in the past.

Actually still relavent today, as specifically, Easter is celebrated on the first Sunday following the full Moon that occurs on or just after the spring equinox.
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Re: Seaching PRs and came across these symbols
« Reply #11 on: Friday 21 May 21 12:31 BST (UK) »
Intriguing!
Maybe the planetary symbols represent the time of day?: The Chaldean Sequence allocates a planet for each hour of the day...the symbols on the document are the Sun, Mercury and Saturn. Could the word at the top of the column possibly be "Hour" ?

Given that the symbols are Sun, Mercury and Saturn, corresponding to Sunday, Wednesday (Mercredi in French) and Saturday, they are internally consistent within the sample shown above; but it seems that the original scribe was using a calendar out of step with Guy's calculations - possibly one of astrological significance ?
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Re: Seaching PRs and came across these symbols
« Reply #12 on: Friday 21 May 21 12:46 BST (UK) »
Would these dates be before the change from Julian to Gregorian calendar?
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Re: Seaching PRs and came across these symbols
« Reply #13 on: Friday 21 May 21 13:43 BST (UK) »
Would these dates be before the change from Julian to Gregorian calendar?

Before, the Gregorian Calendar was adopted by the UK in September 1752.
Kirkham, Garlick, Worthington, Shaw, Bamber. Fylde Coast
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Re: Seaching PRs and came across these symbols
« Reply #14 on: Friday 21 May 21 13:46 BST (UK) »
Is that perhaps why the days appear inconsistent with the calculated ones?
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Drinnan (New Zealand)

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Re: Seaching PRs and came across these symbols
« Reply #15 on: Friday 21 May 21 13:54 BST (UK) »
The Calendar (New Style) Act 1750 did not make any changes to the days of the week.
Wednesday, 2 September 1752, was followed by Thursday, 14 September 1752.
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Re: Seaching PRs and came across these symbols
« Reply #16 on: Friday 21 May 21 13:59 BST (UK) »
Yes, but surely that means if you were calculating back from now to a date in 1702, the days of the week would be offset by 3 days?
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Re: Seaching PRs and came across these symbols
« Reply #17 on: Friday 21 May 21 14:01 BST (UK) »
The Calendar (New Style) Act 1750 did not make any changes to the days of the week.
Wednesday, 2 September 1752, was followed by Thursday, 14 September 1752.
But the 14th would have been a Monday before the change!
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