Margaret & William Dunn Are they related?

[g eli]

Margaret Dunn born c1781 in Scotland married James Oldknow in 1800 in Barony,Lanarkshire James was in the Nottingham militia.
They spent the next few years in Scotland but by 1809 they were in Derbyshire which was James's place of birth.
William Dunn was born in Scotland c 1790 but by 1818 he was in Derbyshire where he married, Margaret Oldknow was one of the witnesses.
Both James Oldknow & William Dunn were framesmiths and this may be the connection, but I find it hard to believe that two people from Scotland with the same surname should end up in the same small Derbyshire village without there being some sort of familial connection.
I have done a lot of searching but cannot come up with anything definite.
Any suggestions would be welcome,
Liz

[MonicaL]

Hi Liz

Just looking at the names of the early born children for James and Margaret in case there was some clues from them re maternal grandparents (Scottish naming pattern if used can be really useful as a guide).

There is this birth for example:

Margret Dunn b. 13 Oct 1781 & chr. 20 Oct 1781
Parents William and Margaret (Hamilton).

Am I right on the order of births?

Margaret 1800
John 1802
William 1804
Margaret 1807
Hannah 1809
Christopher 1811

I see from some family trees that James' parents may have been John and Hannah?

Monica

[MonicaL]

Was the age of the William Dunn you have near to Margaret consistent?

The couple I mentioned, William Dunn and wife Margaret Hamilton looked to have married (or banns) on 30 May 1779 in Barony Lanarkshire.

Children showing for them in the OPRs (there may be more as gaps in the register do occur):

Catherine 1780 Barony
Margaret 1781 Barony
Agnes 1784 Glasgow
Jean 1786 Barony

So, unless William Jnr could fit there in these births, then maybe William Jnr came from another connected Dunn family?

Monica

[MonicaL]

Liz, from the English censuses for William and his wife Ann Watson, William Dunn showing as born c. 1791+/- a couple of years?

There is a birth in Cadder, Lanarkshire on 24 April 1788 for a William, son of George Dunn and Ann Hamilton. If connected could William and Margaret's mother's have been sisters, making them cousins?

From what I have seen, William and Ann's first son was called George?

Just guesses from me with what we have so far 

Monica

[g eli]

Thank you Monica. I am fairly certain Margaret's parents are William Dunn and Margaret Hamilton, the dates are about right, the Oldknow children follow the naming pattern and William Dunn Sr was a framesmith.
I also considered George Dunn as William Jr's father The trouble is I can find no connection between these families,Dunn or Hamilton.
Liz