Church / Dempsey

[Hungryhorace]

Forgive me, I am aware that there have been numerous chats re Church family. I am interested in a Stephen Church who married a Mary Dempsey 8 Feb 1872 at Killowen, Coleraine. His father is Stephen Church a farmer who I think married a Mary McLease/McLean. Mary Dempsey is from Drumale (I can't trace this) and her father is Patrick Dempsey.

Stephen and Mary Dempsey lived in Killygullib and had Mary Jane in 1873. I know they moved to Scotland, where he died 1875.

Any info guidance on either families would be appreciated

[heywood]

Here is the civil marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11293/8143111.pdf

Was he working in Barrow in Furness or was he from there?

[Hungryhorace]

That is a mystery that I still haven't managed to uncover. We think the family are originally from Ireland. I'd assumed he was working there, and English records have uncovered nothing.

[heywood]

Possibly Drumeil
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/coleraine/aghadowey/agivey/drumeil/

There are 3 Patrick Dempseys in Drumeil in Griffiths Valuation
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qmq/

[Hungryhorace]

Thank you Heywood. I'm guessing the names in brackets are father's names? (John, Ned, Monty).

[heywood]

Yes, I would think so - used to distinguish them from each other.

There is a death for Stephen Church in 1874

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1874/020646/7244449.pdf

Have you looked at that. He was killed and there are newspaper snippets about the incident.

There is a published tree though with links to Texas so perhaps not your man’s father.

[aghadowey]

The Dempseys were from Drumeil/Drumale area but the problem is that there were so many of them and quite a few Patricks amongst them. I’ve been collecting Dempseys for over 30 years and still haven’t sorted them all out. I have lots more on these & other Dempsey families in Aghadowey/Agivey-

These are 2 of the Dempsey holdings at Drumeil showing changes in the tenants (Worshipful Company of Ironmongers):
1859 Patrick “Morty” Dempsey. 1863 Patrick “Murt” Dempsey (5.2.38) wife, 7 ch. 1886 Henry Dempsey (5.2.38).
1859 Patrick ”John” Dempsey. 1863 Patrick “Jack” Dempsey (8.1.1) wife, 3 ch., 1 child. 1886 William Dempsey.

Hugh Dempsey (c1843-Dec.1913) of Drumeil, son of Patrick, married 20 Feb.1873 to Ellen McDonald & had family.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1873/11259/8129484.pdf
His brother?- Henry Dempsey (c1836-aft.1901), Drumeil, son of Patrick, m. Mary (c1838-aft.1901).
Annie Dempsey (c1856-aft.1901), daughter of Patrick,  m.(11 Feb.1880 Aghadowey) James Dempsey (c1859-aft.1901), son of James Dempsey.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1880/11024/8031100.pdf
Jane Dempsey, daughter of Patrick, m.(1 Apr.1866 Aghadowey) Bernard Kane, labourer, Drumeil.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1866/11532/8241321.pdf
Patrick Dempsey, farmer, son of Patrick, m.(25 Dec.1867 Aghadowey) Elizabeth Dunlop.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1867/11509/8232705.pdf

The records for Aghadowey came under Killowen (St. John's) so things can be a bit jumbled. The earlier chapel (also known as Bovagh) was in the townland of Mullahinch (now in ruins) and here's the present one-
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54824197@N03/6636732123
https://billiongraves.com/cemetery/St-Mary-Roman-Catholic-Graveyard-Aghadowey/300173

If you click on 'report to moderator' someone will move this thread to the Derry/Londonderry board where it belongs.

[aghadowey]

There is a death for Stephen Church in 1874
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1874/020646/7244449.pdf
Have you looked at that. He was killed and there are newspaper snippets about the incident.

That was a different Stephen Church.

[aghadowey]

Most of the R.C. Parish registers that survive are online here-
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0341

Added- birth of Mary Jane Church (1873 Killygullib)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03213/2178211.pdf