Catherine English b 1888ish No birth record Cahir

[Cinders59]

Hello
I am trying to find my great Aunt birth record, I have seached the IRE site and cannot locate it anywhere.
Speaking to a distant cousin, a grandson of the above, he stated that she was born to some Lord.

Her name was Catherine English, her mother was Bridget Morrissy and they lived in Mountain Road Clogheen Cahir.

She is on the 1901 census with her mother and siblings and moved to wales by 1911.

Her mother was born 1866 and her father, Edmond English was b 1865, he was in and out of jail at least 11 times.

Is there anywhere I can search for her birth record, I have tried the surname English and also Morrissy as she was born before her parents married in 1890.

Thank you

[Kiltaglassan]

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Is there anywhere I can search for her birth record, I have tried the surname English and also Morrissy as she was born before her parents married in 1890.

For others trying to find Catherine's birth record, here's the marriage in 1890.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1890/10702/5901551.pdf

The English family in 1901 census.
Residents of a house 15 in Lower Abbey Street (Caher, Tipperary).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Caher/Lower_Abbey_Street/1708249/

Was Edmond in jail at this time?


KG

[CaroleW]

If Bridget & Edmond only married 1890 - are you sure he was her biological father?

Is she more likely to have been registered as Morrissey?

[Cinders59]

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Is there anywhere I can search for her birth record, I have tried the surname English and also Morrissy as she was born before her parents married in 1890.

For others trying to find Catherine's birth record, here's the marriage in 1890.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1890/10702/5901551.pdf

The English family in 1901 census.
Residents of a house 15 in Lower Abbey Street (Caher, Tipperary).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Caher/Lower_Abbey_Street/1708249/

Was Edmond in jail at this time?

Yes I think he was as I can find him in jail just before the census but dont know how long he was in there

KG

[Cinders59]

If Bridget & Edmond only married 1890 - are you sure he was her biological father?

Is she more likely to have been registered as Morrissey?

I have searched under Morrissy but could not find her.
Is there a chance that she wasnt registered?

[CaroleW]

Is this a possibility?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBZ1-4TT

[Cinders59]

Is this a possibility?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBZ1-4TT

Yes that could be it.
Catherine died in Swansea Wales 1960 and gave her birth as estimated 1888 and on the 1939 street census as 28 Jan 1888, but they are not always accurate.

Thank you Carole

[Kiltaglassan]

Is this a possibility?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBZ1-4TT

Yes that could be it.
Catherine died in Swansea Wales 1960 and gave her birth as estimated 1888 and on the 1939 street census as 28 Jan 1888, but they are not always accurate.

Thank you Carole

Don't think so.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02515/1932333.pdf

Birth date 15th May 1888. Father Roger Morrissey, mother Mary Morrissey, formerly O'Brien.

[Cinders59]

yep,
No not her