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Re: Bounty widow?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 24 May 21 09:58 BST (UK) »
Thank you but I'm not sure we have the same person.
I have Frederick b. 8th Dec 1836 Battle. Enrolment date 20th Sep 1854. 1861 census he is on HMS Philornel (Philomel) Victoria Harbour Hong Kong. 1871 he's in Portsea with wife & child Frederick 3 mths.
 His mother tho' I have yet to establish a fixed DoD had already died, his father died in the workhouse June 1854. However I am still working on this so nothing is certain.

A previous reply said Officers received a Bounty payment, was a Gunner an Officer?
I'm still checking a few things as only just found this info & trying to unravel & take onboard (sorry for the pun)

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Re: Bounty widow?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 24 May 21 10:28 BST (UK) »
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A previous reply said Officers received a Bounty payment, was a Gunner an Officer?

No but relatives of ratings were also eligible for Bounty pensions - see my replies#4 and #6
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Re: Bounty widow?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 24 May 21 10:47 BST (UK) »
thank you ShaunJ 1878 fits, I'll have to do a bit more looking.

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« Reply #12 on: Monday 24 May 21 10:56 BST (UK) »
I stand corrected. The Gunner, along with the Carpenter and the Boatswain, were the ship's "standing officers".

".... the ship's three "standing officers", the Carpenter, Gunner and Boatswain (Bo'sun), who along with the master were permanently assigned to a vessel for maintenance, repair, and upkeep. Standing officers were considered the most highly skilled seamen on board, and messed and berthed with the crew. As such, they held a status separate from the other officers and were not granted the privileges of a commissioned or warrant officer if they were captured."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Navy_ranks,_rates,_and_uniforms_of_the_18th_and_19th_centuries

Frederick was listed among the officers in the report of the Eurydice Relief Fund, which also lists his wife Isabella and three children: https://tinyurl.com/2dwjms9d
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Re: Bounty widow?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 24 May 21 10:58 BST (UK) »
So Isabella's "bounty" was an annuity of 22, plus a further 8 for each of the children.
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Re: Bounty widow?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 24 May 21 11:43 BST (UK) »
That's amazing thank you
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Re: Bounty widow?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 24 May 21 16:51 BST (UK) »

If you look at the previews of these images you can see that Frederick ALLEN born 1854 Battle, Sussex served until 14 September 1867 on the first link
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7541740

1854 was the year he joined. 1836 is his birth year on the document.
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 25 May 21 00:11 BST (UK) »

Oops, I'm sorry about getting his DOB and enrolment date mixed up.  I hope it didn't cause too much confusion.

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