Tips/advice for finding mysterious ancestor Sarah Mary Hayes

[Ahayes99]

FWIW there's a tree on ancestry with Sarah's parents & birth in Denbighshire, might be worth contacting tree owner & you can assess their sources. 

ADDED: This tree sites 1881 RG11; Piece: 5513; Folio: 110; Page: 16

Thank you Josey...I think that particular tree owner might be myself, unfortunately! I was trying to piece it together and built a provisional tree on Ancestry, based on research through the GRO birth records and a bit of census research. (Basically trying to identify John Williams' who were coal miners with daughters called Sarah! Mother's maiden name was Edwards too...but all very uncertain and no documented link to St Helens.)

[Dundee]

Veronica is indeed in Doncaster in 1939

Why is she using that surname?

Debra 

[rosie99]

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[heywood]

So do we stop looking for Sarah from Denbighshire?

You mention her marriage in a Methodist Chapel rather than church ‘as other family members’. Does this mean later family?
Am I right in assuming you don’t have her in earlier censuses?

[Ahayes99]

So do we stop looking for Sarah from Denbighshire?

You mention her marriage in a Methodist Chapel rather than church ‘as other family members’. Does this mean later family?
Am I right in assuming you don’t have her in earlier censuses?

I wouldn't rule out Sarah from Denbighshire - but I haven't found anything to conclusively rule her 'in' either.

The 'other family members' comment is based on anecdotal info from my dad who mentioned that the rest of the family tended to be baptised, married and buried at Catholic churches - so I guess contemporary family rather than later family.

I've combed earlier censuses using the usual tools to try and find Sarah in them and while there are plenty of Sarah Williamses (partly the problem), it's just impossible to know which is 'our' one. I guess this is the frustrating downside of family research!

[jim1]

It would be nice to understand the Edwards connection

It was a common practice to give illegitimate children the putative father's
surname as a middle name.

[heywood]

In the published tree, Sarah’s mother’s maiden name was Edwards, I think.

[josey]

Why is she using that surname?

I think it has been mistranscribed, the lower part of the 'y' in the second part of double barrelled name has been cut off by the black redaction bar of the entry below. And what is an 'H' has been transcribed as 'M'.

[rosie99]

Have you any idea when JSE Hayes died.  Did he serve in WW2,  I presume that is why he is probably missing in 1939