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German Names - Handwriting analysis please
« on: Wednesday 26 May 21 10:17 BST (UK) »
Hi there. I am looking for some help with transcribing the names here. I have read it as Joachim Tambre, however that name doesn't really appear to exist, let alone as a German name. It is almost indecipherable on the Lutheran birth records, however much clearer on the marriage record. I read it as Joachim Tambre .W marries Anna Keckenbart Sp. I am trying to track down Joachim's first marriage, however the surname Tambre brings me nothing. Any other suggestion for the Surmame?

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Beccy

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Re: German Names - Handwriting analysis please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 26 May 21 10:19 BST (UK) »
Hi, sorry here is the birth record. It is the first line under Anno 1659

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Re: German Names - Handwriting analysis please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 26 May 21 12:11 BST (UK) »
It might be a spelling variation of the German Surname, ' Tauber'
Kirkham, Garlick, Worthington, Shaw, Bamber. Fylde Coast
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Redfern. Cheshire/Derbyshire
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Re: German Names - Handwriting analysis please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 26 May 21 12:24 BST (UK) »
Thank you. I will look in to that. Beccy


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Re: German Names - Handwriting analysis please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 26 May 21 12:35 BST (UK) »
more text would help to compare letters
Where and when did they marry
etc etc
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Re: German Names - Handwriting analysis please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 May 21 12:46 BST (UK) »
I agree but unfortunately I could not get the file small enough to attach. They were married at St Dukes, James Place in the city of London, which I understand was a place that carried out marriages of a more un-couth nature. Perhaps because they were exiled Lutherans who appear to have come over in a similar fashion to the French Huguenots, who they lived amongst. Additionally, they anglicized their name to Weaver, presumably to match their occupation. I have attached a link to the record here, on the off chance that you may have access to Ancestry. The French had the Walloon Church by this time I think but the Lutheran church didn't come until a while later. 

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1624/images/31281_a101606-00123?pId=7025114

Here is more about the church itself. Quite an interesting place by all accounts. I had never heard of it before...https://www.citymatters.london/city-history-aldgate-church/

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Re: German Names - Handwriting analysis please
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 26 May 21 13:09 BST (UK) »
I believe the surname in the 1659 baptism record is Weber, which translates into Weaver.

The groom’s surname in the 1681 marriage record does appear to be written Tambre, but it may have been recorded incorrectly. The bride’s surname is written Keckerbart (not Keckenbart).

On the face of it, they don't seem to be the same Joachim.


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Re: German Names - Handwriting analysis please
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 26 May 21 13:17 BST (UK) »
Ok, thank you for taking a look at that for me. Will delve in to that some more and that would make sense. My Joachim Weaver did end up in the same location at the same time with a wife called Anna (on the children's baptism records). May have mis-stepped somewhere.  Beccy

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Re: German Names - Handwriting analysis please
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 26 May 21 13:18 BST (UK) »
quite agree

marriage
Joachim Tambre  - Anna Keckerbart Sp(inster) – Ernesto Keckerbart (ftr) father?

Lutheran birth record
des 28 January ist getauft (baptized) Jochim Weber