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Offline BumbleB

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Re: Census remarks
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 29 May 21 17:34 BST (UK) »
Whatever, it is all fascinating reading and gives us an insight into our ancestors' lives.

I now live in Tamworth, Staffordshire, and at the end of the 18th century there was a vicar here who attached a summary of events at the end of each year when submitting his records.  Very interesting.



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If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
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Re: Census remarks
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 29 May 21 18:07 BST (UK) »
Its wonderful to have pre 1841 census
I read the link
Ive not come across the word hind in this context ...presuming it means works for ...
Does it have a particular meaning like apprentice or servant ?
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 29 May 21 18:10 BST (UK) »
Just because a family had a bible didnt mean they could read
My grandmother told me that her aunt   taught her husband to read using the bible .it would have been around 1890
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 29 May 21 18:23 BST (UK) »
Its wonderful to have pre 1841 census
I read the link
Ive not come across the word hind in this context ...presuming it means works for ...
Does it have a particular meaning like apprentice or servant ?

As JenB pointed out it wasn't what we would generally class as a "Census' but was limited to the Parish.
A Hind was an agricultural worker, most commonly one who worked with horses.

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Re: Census remarks
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 29 May 21 18:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks Boo

As for the language i wonder what future generations will think of some of our terms such as bipolar or learning disabilities both horrible tems .
I actually like the term lunatic which originally meant changing with the moon. In french its still used in that sense
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 29 May 21 18:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks Boo

As for the language i wonder what future generations will think of some of our terms such as bipolar or learning disabilities both horrible tems .
I actually like the term lunatic which originally meant changing with the moon. In french its still used in that sense

We all (whatever time period) are limited by the terms which are common at the time.
As knowledge improves new terminology emerges and replaces the old stuff.

Best we can currently say is that those who are being described also now have a 'voice' and have (some) opportunity to say what they would prefer.
Not always taken notice of, sadly,  but it's a good step in the right direction.

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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 29 May 21 19:27 BST (UK) »
Its wonderful to have pre 1841 census
I read the link
Ive not come across the word hind in this context ...presuming it means works for ...
Does it have a particular meaning like apprentice or servant ?

"hind"  yes this word was new to me too, but I have not yet finished reading the whole excellent and detailed document.....
ANSTRUTHER,Worldwide
BENNETT,
BRETT, Sligo
CARNEGIE,
CROCKFORD, Hampshire.
ELLIOT,
GAUNTLETT, Worldwide
HEAL, HEALE, HELE, Chew Magna, Somerset
HENRY, Sligo
MABEY, Dorset
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POPE, London docklands,
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Re: Census remarks
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 29 May 21 20:50 BST (UK) »
You may also be fascinated by this transcript of the 1816 census of Rothbury Parish, I certainly was!

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/Rothbury/Rothbury1816

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My favourite bits are the elderly joiner who owned a dog with long, silky fur which he cut for making stockings and the woman who moved into a farmhouse and became troubled by a poltergeist.
The parts I disliked were descriptions of:
 A young man with what we would now call "learning difficulties" and who also had physical disabilities. Author called him a "monster".
A woman who may have had a mental illness or a learning difficulty.

Some people were buying bibles in parts. Some Catholics owned New Testaments.

A hind was a farm labourer. My dictionary says that especially in the North it was a married one with a cottage on the farm. Origin is Old English. I think I first came across it in "Ivanhoe". Hinds in that novel, being lower class, were Saxon. There were also hinds as in deer. Some Irish farm labourers had "hind" as occupation on censuses.
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Re: Census remarks
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 30 May 21 18:24 BST (UK) »
Bocking, Essex has a census for the late 1700s.

Rochford, Essex had an 1811 census and an 1803 count of all able bodied men who could be eligible for military. Remarks such as "3 cows" or "3 dogs" can be seen.
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