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Could some kind person please decipher the township of one of my distant relatives from the Northup Parish Registers?

The entries are on p. 136 of the christenings for 1798, 9th and 10th lines down:

"Lobrook major?? Anne D of John Jones & Mary his wife [born 19 Feb], bapt 21 Feb"
"Flint Corn Mill?? Robert S of John Jones & Mary his wife [born 23 Feb] bapt 25 Feb".

Anne and Robert appear to be children of the same parents, but the interval between the birth dates suggests they are not. I think Robert is one of my 3rd gt grandfathers.

I'm not familiar with this area of north Wales. Can anyone decipher the townships for me, please? "Flint Corn Mill (sic) also appears further down the same page, as dows "Lobrook major??".

Yet again, a small jpeg file of the page does not load on Rootschat.

In anticipation, many thanks and best wishes

John
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Ithel-Bagilt,Mold
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I think the first one is Ldbrook Major - short for Leadbrook Major
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I can't see teh second one as yet  - maybe someone else might see it:

Add - is it Flint <something>
Add2 - I'm sure it''s Flint Corn with a superscript m   -  m

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Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)


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Flint Comn = Flint Common

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Many thanks, everyone. Leadbrook Major looks right for Ann. However, I cannot find a place near Northup called Flint Common. There is however Corn Mill, as Gadget suggests - which reflects the former existence of a corn mill. I'll go with Flint Corn Mill.

Best

John

Owens-Swansea/Wallasey/Garston,L’pool
Jones-Erbistock/Widnes
Allen-Tetsworth/Hoole/Runcorn/St.Helens/Iowa/Kansas/Nebraska
Yieveley/Yevily/Everley/Heviley-Little Ness,Salop/Oldbury/St Helens/Garston,L'pool
Davies-Holywell,Garston,L'pool
Ithel-Bagilt,Mold
Fletcher-Rainhill/Widnes
Hughes-Marchwiel,Bangor-Is-Coed,Denbs
Thomas-Oswestry, Salop/Liverpool
Cole-Cliffe Peppard/Lyneham, Wilts
Frawley-Rathkeale, Co. Limerick
Conway-Coolanoran,Co.Limerick
Dinneen-Ballingarry,Co. Limerick

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Flint Comn = Flint Common

I cannot find a place near Northup called Flint Common. There is however Corn Mill, as Gadget suggests - which reflects the former existence of a corn mill. I'll go with Flint Corn Mill.

Comn is quite frequently found as an abbreviation for Common. I rather doubt that something as specific as Corn Mill would be abbreviated in this way.

If you browse the Northop parish register rather more widely, you’ll find that Flint Common is referenced time after time as a place of residence. Below is an example written out in full (from 1807 burials, line 1, Mary Jones).

Finding it on a map is another matter, of course.

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Hi Bookbox

On further reflection, I see the other Flint Common mentions. I guess it is/was an area of the county town of Flint. Previously,I went for Flint Corn mill as I found that on Google and no mention of Flint Common but I'm now persuaded Flint Common is much more likely.

Many thanks again

Best

John
Owens-Swansea/Wallasey/Garston,L’pool
Jones-Erbistock/Widnes
Allen-Tetsworth/Hoole/Runcorn/St.Helens/Iowa/Kansas/Nebraska
Yieveley/Yevily/Everley/Heviley-Little Ness,Salop/Oldbury/St Helens/Garston,L'pool
Davies-Holywell,Garston,L'pool
Ithel-Bagilt,Mold
Fletcher-Rainhill/Widnes
Hughes-Marchwiel,Bangor-Is-Coed,Denbs
Thomas-Oswestry, Salop/Liverpool
Cole-Cliffe Peppard/Lyneham, Wilts
Frawley-Rathkeale, Co. Limerick
Conway-Coolanoran,Co.Limerick
Dinneen-Ballingarry,Co. Limerick