Boom Hall / Boomhall information

[joy.e]

Would anyone know if there are records online or held locally which would have information about workers at the Boom Hall Estate in Londonderry in the mid 1800's ?

In the 1901 census my Great Grandfather John Dogherty (45) states he was born in 'Boom Hall'. I know the dates cant be relied on as being totally accurate, but I'm guessing John was born circa 1856.

In Johns marriage record from 1879 his father is named as Richard Dogherty.

I've recently found a marriage record for Richard Dogherty (widow)- who could potentially be my GG Grandfather- who states his residence is 'Boom Hall' at the time of his 2nd marriage in 1865.
His occupation is 'labourer', which is why I'm interested to finding out if there's any additional information available anywhere for workers at Boom Hall.

[scotmum]

Can't assist re potential Boom Hall records other than if you go to https://apps.proni.gov.uk/eCatNI_IE/SearchPage.aspx then type in Boom Hall.

You have probably already read some of its history https://www.boomhall.com/history,  however, not sure if you are aleady aware, Richard and Eliza of the 1865 marriage, were living at Caw townland, Clondermott parish
https://www.townlands.ie/en/londonderry/tirkeeran/clondermot/waterside/caw/
when a son, David https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/7e9c4c8173994, was born in 1868
and another, Alexander, was born in 1869
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/86b4f28283280.

Might be coincidence, but he could therefore quite possibly be the widower Richard, aged 56, who died at Pine Street in 1893, registered by a son, Alexander.https://apps.proni.gov.uk/eCatNI_IE/SearchPage.aspx

[gaffy]

Just a possibility... I can see a transcript of a Co. Londonderry Church of Ireland baptism for a John Dogherty on 9 May 1855 (date of birth 8 April 1855), parents Richard Dogherty (labourer) and Sarah Groves, St. Columb's parish, their address was 'Boom Hall'.

Edited to add: (From transcript) There was also a son James 'Doherty' baptised 23 February 1853 to this couple at St. Columb's, same address of 'Boom Hall', Richard's occupation was 'groom'.

And also a son Richard 'Doherty' baptised for this couple at St. Columb's on 8 July 1857, the address was 'Boomhall', Richard was a labourer.

[gaffy]

Just a possibility... I can see a transcript of a Co. Londonderry Church of Ireland baptism for a John Dogherty on 9 May 1855 (date of birth 8 April 1855), parents Richard Dogherty (labourer) and Sarah Groves, St. Columb's parish, their address was 'Boom Hall'.

Edited to add: (From transcript) There was also a son James 'Doherty' baptised 23 February 1853 to this couple at St. Columb's, same address of 'Boom Hall', Richard's occupation was 'groom'.

And also a son Richard 'Doherty' baptised for this couple at St. Columb's on 8 July 1857, the address was 'Boomhall', Richard was a labourer.

The subsequent marriage to Elizabeth Reeves:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1865/11581/8261376.pdf

[scotmum]

Marriage in 1893, of Alexander, son of the Richard of Pine Street, to Annie Osborne:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/3844342152331

[gaffy]

Found another potential baptism at St. Columb's Church of Ireland parish (note: from a transcript, I haven't seen an original image).

It's for a William Henry Dougherty baptised 3 February 1860 (DOB 13 December 1859), parents recorded as Richard Dougherty (labourer) and Sarah [no maiden name], the address was recorded as 'Boomhall'.

[joy.e]

Oh my word....what amazing information...thank you both so much scotmum & gaffy...can’t wait to look up all these facts...I’ve no doubt you’ve identified members of my family...THANK YOU 😍

[gaffy]

Another Church of Ireland record transcript, this time it's from the parish of Burt, Co. Donegal, it's for a 42 year old Sarah Dogherty who died on 14 May 1863, critically, the address is given as 'Boom hall, templemore'.

Given the Burt Church of Ireland parish context,  I also wondered about this marriage in the same parish of a Richard Dogherty to a Sarah McGrory:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1846/09312/5372021.pdf

The groom's father is consistent with the 1865 Dogherty-Reeves marriage.

Again from transcript, a daughter Elizabeth was baptised on 7 March 1847 in Burt Church of Ireland parish for a Richard Doherty (labourer) and Sarah [no maiden name], the address was 'Carnamaddy', which is the same address given for Sarah McGrory in the above 1846 marriage record. I would speculate that the address might actually mean Carrownamaddy:
https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/inishowen-west/burt/burt/carrownamaddy/

Further to the above, also note this 1879 marriage of an Eliza Dogherty of 'Carnamaddy', daughter of Richard Dogherty, to John Brown, one of the witnesses was an Eliza McGrory:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1879/11056/8044839.pdf

The baptismal records I cited at reply #2 and reply #5 were transcriptions, it wouldn't be the first time that original record images have been mistranscribed. Could Sarah 'Groves' and Sarah 'McGrory' somehow be the same person?  Just to note as a speculative possibility for now.

[joy.e]

My head is spinning...so much great/new information for me to try to piece together.

 I really ( REALLY !!) appreciate all the investigations you’ve both been carrying out.

I’m totally in awe of the CofI information you’ve found...I assume this is online somewhere?

I like your theory about Groves and McGrory being the same person and,as you’ve suggested, the information adds up, but I’d probably be happier if there was some more information available which supported this theory...Although I’ve no idea what that might be or where to look 🤔

Family folklore has it that the Doghertys originally came from Carndonagh ...but I’ve no idea of the accuracy of this “fact”...I’m mentioning it in case it can be connected to any further records...I’m not expecting you to do any more research for me, hopefully I can access the C of I records myself somehow {?} to dig deaper.