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Burial record but no death registration??
« on: Friday 04 June 21 15:30 BST (UK) »
According to a transcript on FindMyPast, David Christopher was buried at Arundel on 17 December 1840, but I can't find a death registration for him him in Q4 1840 Worthing district. However I can find one in right quarter and right year in Brecknock district. He is aged 85, making year of birth about 1755. I don't know when my DC was born or where, but he married in 1785 in Arundel, so birth in 1755 is possible.

Did my DC visit Brecknock for some reason and unfortunately die there and his body was brought back to Arundel for burial? Or is there an error in either the GRO burial record or FindMyPast transcript as regards location? Or is it a co-incidence and there are two David Christophers who died in Q4 1840 and my Sussex one was never registered?


Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Burial record but no death registration??
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 June 21 15:36 BST (UK) »
Sussex Advertiser 21 December 1840
At Arundel on the 14th inst David Christopher, 81 an old industrious and faithful servant of his grace the Duke of Norfolk
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Re: Burial record but no death registration??
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 June 21 15:47 BST (UK) »
There is a burial for an 85 year old David Christopher 24 November 1840 at Rhyd-y-bryw,    Breconshire - Image on FindMyPast
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Re: Burial record but no death registration??
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 June 21 15:53 BST (UK) »
Thank you both very much. So there were two David Christophers and a coincidence that they died at similar times and were in their 80s.
Strange mine has no death registration, but now I have a better idea of his year of birth and that he worked at Arundel castle!
I have a DNA  match to a descendant of the Sussex David Christopher, but can't yet connect him to my Elizabeth Christopher


Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: Burial record but no death registration??
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 June 21 16:37 BST (UK) »
FreeREG has this ...

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818f56fe93790de6a45e799/david-christopher-burial-sussex-arundel-1840-12-17?locale=en

Thank you, looks like the same one as I found on FindMyPast, but this has the age added, two years younger  than the newspaper report
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Burial record but no death registration??
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 June 21 17:04 BST (UK) »
The transcript on FindMyPast is from familysearch

Record set   England Deaths & Burials 1538-1991
Category   Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory   Parish Burials
Collections from   England, Great Britain
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl
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Re: Burial record but no death registration??
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 June 21 17:22 BST (UK) »
Sussex Advertiser 21 December 1840
At Arundel on the 14th inst David Christopher, 81 an old industrious and faithful servant of his grace the Duke of Norfolk

It does seem strange not to have the death registered.  I can only speculate that any living relatives of David Christopher might have assumed that a member of the Duke of Norfolk's staff would have seen to the registration (it would probably have been a staff member who arranged the notice in the newspaper) and nobody actually checked to see if this had been done.

Civil registration had only been operating for three years, so people may not yet have been used to the new system.
Please help me to help you by citing sources for information.

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Re: Burial record but no death registration??
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 June 21 18:13 BST (UK) »
Arundel burial register, very faint image
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-69PN-V7

BT
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XC3S-75S

Charles Hale buried 18 Dec 1840 on the BT, is entered in the PR among the March 1841 burials. No. 1432. Looks like they forgot to write him up at the time!

George Fry McCombe, Catherine Constable, Elizabeth Toogood, Charles Hale, Sarah Ann Shiles
Buried Arundel, 4, 7, 17, 18, 23 December 1840
All in the GRO death index, Dec 1840, Worthing, volume 7 page 331

So, had his death been registered, David Christopher would probably have been with them on 331.