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Re: Searching for African American ancestor
« Reply #36 on: Friday 11 June 21 00:07 BST (UK) »
Sometimes “getting off the track” and searching sideways can lead to breakthroughs. Surely looking at the DNA results is not off track anyway?  :-\ What percentage DNA do you share with your high American matches?

Your ancestor was Australian aboriginal / African (American)? Did she marry a white man? Don’t necessarily assume there are no records of marriages, births etc. Several episodes of WDYTYA have shown otherwise, though I understand it may not have been the norm.

You say that you have seen records of your family but are not allowed to view them “without permission from …” Have to attempted to get that permission?

Regarding your family tree, you say there were three men in different branches who were described as having African heritage. Can you clarify please?

You seem a bit irritated by all the questions, but there is usually a method to our madness. (However, apologies for re-asking about the age of your family tree which you had previously mentioned).  :)

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Re: Searching for African American ancestor
« Reply #37 on: Friday 11 June 21 00:17 BST (UK) »
Have you checked out San Francisco?  A lot of ships working in the Pacific passed through there.
Also Hawaii.

https://www.sfgenealogy.org/sf/
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Searching for African American ancestor
« Reply #38 on: Friday 11 June 21 00:48 BST (UK) »
Where did you get the names of the two American ships mentioned in your first post? You say your man’s name doesn’t appear on either of them.

This Wikipedia article mentions a bit about the history of whaling in WA:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whaling_in_Western_Australia

A few companies are named. It might be worth chasing up to see if any records survive.



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Re: Searching for African American ancestor
« Reply #39 on: Friday 11 June 21 01:05 BST (UK) »
I did some looking in Newport, RI for Moloney and variants. I thought the first man listed here was the most interesting possibility.
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1830 Census of Newport, Rhode Island
page 33. [image 63 at ancestry.com]

Sanders Mullone/Mullane
household: 1 white male 70 to 80

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHP4-92H

I don't see him in 1820 in Newport. the 1820 census of Newport was recorded alphabetically by surname.

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1840 Census of Newport, Rhode Island
all white:
John Melloney (b 1800 to 1810 - )
  + __  (b 1800 to 1810 - )
   - female (b 1830-1835 - )
   - male   (b 1835-1840 - )
   - female (b 1835-1840 - )


Patrick Melloney (b 1800 to 1810 - )
  + __  (b 1800 to 1810 - )
   - female (b 1830-1835 - ) 
   - male   (b 1835-1840 - )

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHYB-8FN

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death of an Ann Mulooney indexed on familysearch, with some added information from ancestry.
(c 8 Aug 1857 - 8 Feb 1857, Newport), father: John Mulooney, "kin 2: Wm Springer" -

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL92-TBLF
she could be a daughter of John Melloney on the 1840 census.

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This lady could be the widow of John or Patrick. found this on ancestry.com
1865 Rhode Island Census, Newport, Ward 5, family 2137 - all one household

Maloney
   Ann, 65, born in Ireland, cannot read or write, housekeeper
Murry,
   Ann, 22,
   John, 15
   Mary A, 12
   Ambrose, 10
   Sarah, 5
   Dorcas, 4
All the Murrys were born in Newport

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1863 Newport Directory
Patrick Maloney, laborer, home at 55 Thames
Timothy Maloney, grocer at 9 Tanner, home at same address

There weren't any Maloney variants in the 1856 Newport directory, and that is the earliest one at ancestry. I haven' looked elsewhere yet.

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and for New Bedford, Massachusetts:

1820 Census - I didn't find any Moloneys in New Bedford, Massachusetts. the names are listed alphabetically.

on the 1830 Census of New Bedford the names are not listed alphabetically. there are 102 pages. I didn't go through them. you could browse them at familysearch if you want.

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Re: Searching for African American ancestor
« Reply #40 on: Friday 11 June 21 01:27 BST (UK) »
Further to my earlier reply:   (add #26)


See the following website:
 https://www.wa.gov.au/service/justice/civil-law/searching-family-history


If you are seeking Western Australia BDM documents,  the general public can access historical certs, without needing permission from anyone:
   In Western Australia, historical certificates are available to:
•   Anyone (16 years of age or over) for births 100 years old or more
•   Anyone (16 years of age or over) for deaths 30 years old or more
•   Anyone (16 years of age or over) for marriages 75 years old or more.
In recognition of the fact that the fraudulent use of certificates reduces with the age of the record, the evidence-of-identity requirements are not required for the historical certificates stated above.


There is an important message on that website, it reads:
Please note some words in Open Era records may cause offence. In order to avoid causing offence, the copy you receive will be redacted unless you specifically ask for an un-redacted copy. By asking for an un-redacted copy, you accept that the copy you receive could contain words that may cause, or be capable of causing, offence to you or someone else who is aware of it.

https://bdm.justice.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx

RChat’s Resources Board for Western Australia
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369921.0

Australian Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island Studies :
Western Australia: -
https://aiatsis.gov.au/family-history/where-get-help/western-australia


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Re: Searching for African American ancestor
« Reply #41 on: Friday 11 June 21 01:37 BST (UK) »
I wonder if all of Trove has been accessed, or only the newspapers section.  Anyway, just in case it has not been fully explored, I add the following links

https://www.nla.gov.au/blogs/trove/2016/01/19/aiatsis-on-trove

https://trove.nla.gov.au/landing/first-australians

https://trove.nla.gov.au/collection/aiatsis/abi   (ABI - Biographical Index - There are about 70,000 records in the ABI and it is being continuously updated from both historical and contemporary Australian Indigenous works.)

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