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birth Of mary ann Smith
« on: Sunday 06 June 21 06:09 BST (UK) »
I am looking for the birth Of Mary Ann SMITH about 1852. Nz She married 1870 july 19th at a dwelling house Kakamatua Manukau Harbour to Thomas PRIOR. The only birth I can find in Historical BDMs is a mary Ann Smith her parents being Robert Smith and Esther whom turned out to be Henley. This has turned out not to be her.  I have read the obit of Mrs M A PRIOR 2 sept 1940 this is her. I think her father was Robert Smith and Hannah Willis. Other children were born in Tasmania. I would also like to find the ship they came to Nz on from Tasmainia which I know may not be possible. Thanks lnr

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Re: birth Of mary ann Smith
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 June 21 06:20 BST (UK) »

The 1870 marriage certificate - what names do you see for witnesses?

What church do they marry in ie denomination?

Auckland Stat 2 Sep 1940   p4   Obit for Mary Ann PRIOR
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19400902.2.43?

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Re: birth Of mary ann Smith
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 June 21 07:35 BST (UK) »
This obituary states that the father of Mary Ann Prior was a veterinary surgeon.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19400903.2.100?phrase=2&query=mary+ann+prior&snippet=true

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.


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Re: birth Of mary ann Smith
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 June 21 09:47 BST (UK) »
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Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: birth Of mary ann Smith
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 June 21 10:06 BST (UK) »

NZ BDM births
1870/14664   PRIOR Elizabeth Hannah    ps  Mary Ann / Thomas   
1873/21833   PRIOR Mary Ann          ps  Mary Ann / Thomas   
1874/24517   PRIOR Annie                  ps  Mary Ann / Thomas   
1877/377      PRIOR Edward Thomas      ps  Mary Ann / Thomas
1879/440           PRIOR William                  ps  Mary Ann / Thomas   
1881/10269   PRIOR Thomas                  ps  Mary Ann / Thomas
1882/1124   PRIOR Stephen                  ps  Mary Ann / Thomas


Then Thomas PRIOR dies. In such cases the surviving spouse would need to remarry. Your Mary Ann PRIOR nee SMITH does not remarry.

How does Mary Ann PRIOR support her several children?

You need to see the marriage certificate, 1870. This is the earliest evidence you have that Mary Ann SMITH existed.

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Re: birth Of mary ann Smith
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 June 21 13:57 BST (UK) »
I think her father was Robert Smith and Hannah Willis. Other children were born in Tasmania.

Do you mean Thomas SMITH and Hannah WILLIS.  Who were the other children?

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Re: birth Of mary ann Smith
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 June 21 00:26 BST (UK) »
 Yes sorry meant Thomas Smith. Marriage to Hannah Willis 1841 Hamilton Tasmania Aust 27 Dec Charles william clark smith born 20 aug 1843 Tasmania Dont know other child. All I would like to know is where her birth is registered and also if possible when her parents came from Australia.Dont want any other info thanks lnr

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Re: birth Of mary ann Smith
« Reply #7 on: Monday 07 June 21 03:22 BST (UK) »
There are no births registered to this couple in Tasmania or NZ.  You would need to look for baptism records in both Australia and NZ.  They are held at Tas. Archives and some info here on NZ church registers.

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/New_Zealand_Church_Records

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Re: birth Of mary ann Smith
« Reply #8 on: Monday 07 June 21 04:38 BST (UK) »
Yes sorry meant Thomas Smith. Marriage to Hannah Willis 1841 Hamilton Tasmania Aust 27 Dec Charles william clark smith born 20 aug 1843 Tasmania

 All I would like to know is where her birth is registered and also if possible when her parents came from Australia.Dont want any other info thanks lnr

Hi lnr

Below is Obituary for the Charles William Clark(e) SMITH.    If he is the brother of the Mary Ann you seek, then the Obit. mentions the name of the brig "Isabella" in which his family travelled from Tasmania on.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NA19320620.2.63

    ~  Lu

Edited .... just querying the age given in the Obit. - because there are several ages stated in different records.   Will get back to you on this.