William Candy (1792-1856) & Harriet Ellett (1800-1865)

[sparrett]

Hi Phil
The marriage certificate of you couple
Married at St Mark in Gloucester 1866 May 28. Richard Cook aged 19, a bachelor, Occ Sawyer. Living in Alvin Street. Father David Cook. Occ Engine Driver.
To
Maria Huggins aged 20 a spinster. Living in Kings??? Father William Huggins. Occ shoemaker .
Married after Banns. Neither signed, mark only. Witnesses David Cook his mark. And Jane Hiam signed.

Probably the right couple1871. If it is them there are no chn
19 Philip Street. St Luke Gloucester
Richard Cook, head, a splint cutter aged 25 born Kingholme (?) Gloucester. Head. Married.
Maria Cook, wife aged 24 born Kingholme (?) Gloucester. Married
No others

In 1881 according to census, Richard Cook is a boarder in Birmingham with a publican named John  Hollis. The hotel is the Horse’s Shoe (or Three Horse Shoes)in St Martyn’s place.  His occupation is stone sawyer. He states married and born Gloucester. Two other married stone workers are with him there.

In 1891 He is a widower living at 1 Ashfield Terrace,St James and St Paul Gloucester a freestone sawyer born Gloucestershire. No others of the share his address.

In 1901 Richard Cook lives at 62 Thornleigh Rd Bristol. Aged 56. Head. Married  A freestone sawyer born Gloucestershire.
Also Sarah, wife. Aged 43. Born Gloucester
Alfred son 8 yrs
Stanley son 6yrs 
Iris dau 4 yrs

Sue

 

[Philcandy]

Hi Sue,

The details for Richard Cook and Maria Huggins match what I have up to a point.
They were married in 1866, I have the same certificate.
The census details for 1871 match too.

But then what you have for 1881 and 1891 don't match what I have. I have that Maria dies in 1920 and Richard dies in 1911. Neither remarry.

It's good to receive confirmation that there are no children.

For Maria Huggins, I have found one who lived as a girl with her aunt Ann Mayer who kept a lodging house. But I cannot find this Ann Mayer in my tree and am unsure if the two are even related. I am quite sure this Maria Huggins is the correct one, her mother died a few years before this census was taken.
https://search.ancestry.com.au/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=8860&h=7700765&indiv=try (1851 Gloucestershire Census).
I cannot find Maria Huggins again until she is married to Richard Cook. I also cannot find what her father William Huggins is doing at the time.

Thanks, Phil.

[sparrett]

Hi Phil,

but then what you have for 1881 and 1891 don't match what I have. I have that Maria dies in 1920 and Richard dies in 1911. Neither remarry.


Thanks, Phil.

It is quite possible my research is flawed here, but I just based it on Richard's date and place of birth and his occupation and possible marital status.

Familysearch.org has a couple more details about what I have thought to be  the second marriage for Richard COOK, the one to Sarah.
It shows Richard states father as William which contradicts David as given in the marriage to Maria.
Other than that, a lot of factors line up!

Marriages Mar 1892   
Richard COOK        
Sarah Ann MAY   
Barton R.
6a   143

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XT9F-2BC

Sue      
 

[sparrett]

Just an additional (relevant or not?) snip.
Census 1891
Wooton St Mary Within
Glouscester Lunatic Asylum

One Maria COOK aged 45, born Gloucester, a housewife. A lunatic.

Sue

ADDING
The ancestry digitised asylum records suggest this woman died in 1920 as you have logged.

[sparrett]

Hi Again Phil,
I've been thinking

Is it at all possible that Richard COOK did remarry, but not as a widower as stated?

In 1911 the Richard COOK  I have cited as re-marrried to Sarah, is seen with Sarah, his wife, 2 children and his intellectually enfeebled niece.

All other factors line up, but I guess there could be two men with co incidental details, maybe..... .

Sue

 

[sparrett]

At this stage I cannot comment on your thoughts about Maria HUGGINS and Ann MAYER in 1851

For your interest, I think Maria is living with this aunt in 1861.

At Barton Street, Barton St Mary. “Merry Fellows”

Edward R WALLOP, aged 40. Licensed  Victualler
Wife Eliza WALLOP aged 38
Maria HUGGINS aged 14, niece, a servant
All born in Gloucester.

Looks like Eliza the wife of Edward Richard was nee HUGGINS.
The child was therefore the daughter of Eliza’s sister.  More niece by marriage to the head of household, Edward.

Same page-
Marriages Dec 1843   
HUGGINS    Eliza         
WALLOP Edward Richards
Gloucester
11/413
      

Sue
 

[Philcandy]

Hi Sue,

I think you are correct in suggesting Maria Huggins was staying with Mr Edward Wallop and Eliza Huggins in 1861.

Going down this rabbit hole a little further I found I had two Eliza Huggins listed as children of John Huggins and Anne Bond.

1. Eliza Huggins.
Born 1822 in Gloucester, died 1863 in Gloucester.
Married 5th Nov, in Gloucester to Edward Richard Wallop.
We are pretty this Eliza is the Aunt of Maria Huggins and belongs in the family.

2. Eliza Anna Huggins.
Born 15 March 1822 in Bristol, died Oct 1906 in Bristol.
Married to James Nunan in 1862 in Bristol.

My first thought was that I had the death date for Eliza Huggins number 1 incorrect and the two women were the same person with her remarrying James Nunan. However, I found that Edward Wallop died in 1865 and now I am about 70% convinced that Eliza Anna Huggins number 2 belongs with a different set of parents. If you wanted another thing to have a look at I would love some evidence confirming this one way or the other (If possible). I will continue looking at it myself too.

Thank you, hope you are keeping safe.
Phil.

[sparrett]

Hi Phil,
I cannot say with any certainty either way about Eliza HUGGINS with James NUNAN.

There is not a registered marriage and a tree online (always approach with caution!) states this Eliza HUGGINS was first married to James LANE.  On this certificate, her father is James HUGGINS, a servant.

Sorry not very helpful!

Sue


I wonder if this DC might help if you don't have it.
 
Deaths Mar 1863   
WALLOP Eliza
Gloucester
6a/218      
 

[Philcandy]

Thank you Sue,

I suspected as much.