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Edward BROWN 1817-?
« on: Sunday 13 June 21 05:09 BST (UK) »
Edward Brown was born c1817 in Westham, Essex according to 1851-1881 census.

On 18 Jan 1846 at St Mary Newington he married Eliza WESTON. He was a widower.

Trying to find a couple of things about him.

1. Where is he in 1841 census. He was a ticket collector in 1851
2. Who was his first wife.

Many thanks
Ian C
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CLAPHAM, PARKINSON, Leeds and London
TOMLIENS, Herefordshire and Southwark
CLARKE, Sussex, Cambridge and Shropshire
FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, FURNER All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS,WHITE, COITE, COBELDICK, Cornwall
BROOKING, Devon, India
RUSH, CARTER, GIBSON, REMINGTON, London and Surrey
CHALKLEY, OLNEY, Hertfordshire
HARRIS, Essex
EDWARDS, York
NOLAN, BERNEY, Kildare

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Re: Edward BROWN 1817-?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 June 21 06:18 BST (UK) »
At marriage he was A Lamp Trimmer, address Dean Street, Father Arthur Brown. A Watchman
Side tracked to a friendís very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)

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Re: Edward BROWN 1817-?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 June 21 06:48 BST (UK) »
Found this which you may already have
   
Edward Brown
Birth date   
28 Sep 1816
Baptism date   
10 Nov 1816
Father Arthur Brown occupation   Gardiner
Mother Ann
At West Ham, All Saints

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Re: Edward BROWN 1817-?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 June 21 06:52 BST (UK) »
No answer to your actual question but getting closer to 1841 Is this his family?


Arthur BROWN. wife Ann

Births and Baptisms. all All Saints, West Ham

William Arthur BROWN b 20 Jan 1812, baptised 8 March 1812
2nd marriage to Elizabeth SPIRES at St George the Martyr. Surrey, he is a widower in 1842 names father as Arthur Brown, watchman, and Arthur is a witness.  Williamís address Devonshire Street.   


Edward b 28 Sept 1816 baptised  10 November

Not sure about this

Sept 22 1840 Edward Brown  a Green Grocer , 36 Nicholas Lane, married Catharine Avey Parratt.  At St Nicholas Acons, London City, Father Arthur Brown a Gardener.

Charles 22 June 1814 baptised 25 June

Alfred born 22 Dec 1818 baptised 31 Jan 1819

Is  Alfredís marriage at St George the Martyr to Sarah Rowing  29 Dec 1843. occpation School Master , father Arthur Brown Banking House porter.    Address for Bride and Groom Union Street.
There is a witness Thos. Brown, and  I think a witness at Edwardís wedding might be a Thomas Brown, but am not 100% sure Itís one of those Bs that could be an M


Bit of a cross over with you Kay, but I had already typed it.

modified to Add an address and church for Edward 1840
Side tracked to a friendís very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)

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Re: Edward BROWN 1817-?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 June 21 06:55 BST (UK) »
Burial for Catharine Avey BROWN 1843 age 32. Croydon St Johns
Side tracked to a friendís very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)

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Re: Edward BROWN 1817-?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 13 June 21 07:10 BST (UK) »
1841??     :-\ Marylebone Lane, St Marylebone

Edward   Brown 30   -   Eating House Keeper
Catherine   Brown   30   -   
Jane   Kitchen   30   -   
Isabella   Bone   15   Middlesex, England   
Edward   Saunders   15   Middlesex, England

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Re: Edward BROWN 1817-?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 June 21 07:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks Mckha and Kay.

I did find a marriage for a Thomas BROWN in 1844 to Harriet HILLS. His father was Arthur BROWN, a gardener, plus the address given was Devonshire St.

Thomas was born c1822 in Essex, parents Arthur and Ann.

Not sure about the marriage to Catherine either. He signs as Edward Brown but in the marriage to Eliza in 1846 just as E Brown.

If Arthur was still around in 1842 he must be in the 1841 census somewhere.

An online tree has Arthur marrying an Ann PALMER at Whitechapel in 1811. Not so sure on this either, no sources quoted.

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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

CLAPHAM, PARKINSON, Leeds and London
TOMLIENS, Herefordshire and Southwark
CLARKE, Sussex, Cambridge and Shropshire
FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, FURNER All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS,WHITE, COITE, COBELDICK, Cornwall
BROOKING, Devon, India
RUSH, CARTER, GIBSON, REMINGTON, London and Surrey
CHALKLEY, OLNEY, Hertfordshire
HARRIS, Essex
EDWARDS, York
NOLAN, BERNEY, Kildare

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Re: Edward BROWN 1817-?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 13 June 21 12:49 BST (UK) »
I think this may be Arthur in 1851   Living at Lombard Street, Saint Edmund-The-King and Martyr, City of London,
 

James Barnes 52  Yeoford Suffolk
Elizabeth   Barnes   58 London, Middlesex,
James W   Barnes   32   Clerk   London,
Charles   Barnes   22   Clerk   Islington, Middlesex
Mary   Barnes           20    Islington, Middlesex
Jemima   Barnes   18   Islington, Middlesex
Catherine   Barnes   16   Islington, Middlesex,
Maria   Barnes   14   Islington, Middlesex
Ellen   Barnes   11   Islington, Middlesex,
Susan   Brees   Servant 39Domestic servant   Wales   
Elizabeth   Smart   Servant 21 Domestic servant   London
John Owen Pugh  31  Clerk Wales
Caleb Marshall   38   Porter   Ireland   
Arthur   Brown   Widower   66   Private watchman   Eastham, Essex

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Added - For some reason he is transcribed on Anc as Elizabeth Brown??

If the 1851 is the right Arthur I wonder if he was also living in Lombard Street City of London in 1841 - Listed as Arthur Browne age 55 Male Servant - Not born in County

Baptism?

Arthur Brown
Birth date   27 Nov 1785
Baptism date 18 Dec 1785
Parents  Arthur and Lydia Brown
East Ham, St Mary Magdalene

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Re: Edward BROWN 1817-?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 June 21 01:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks Kay.

Could well be Arthur in 1851, right occupation anyway.

Ian C
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

CLAPHAM, PARKINSON, Leeds and London
TOMLIENS, Herefordshire and Southwark
CLARKE, Sussex, Cambridge and Shropshire
FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, FURNER All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS,WHITE, COITE, COBELDICK, Cornwall
BROOKING, Devon, India
RUSH, CARTER, GIBSON, REMINGTON, London and Surrey
CHALKLEY, OLNEY, Hertfordshire
HARRIS, Essex
EDWARDS, York
NOLAN, BERNEY, Kildare