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Marriage Lookup Request - 1761 Tolleshunt D'Arcy
« on: Sunday 13 June 21 14:56 BST (UK) »
Hi All, thank you for taking an interest in my request.

I am really hoping that someone with easy access to Essex archives or a Essex search subscription, might be extremely kind in looking up a marriage for a brick wall ancestor of mine and this lookup may help me to break down this break wall.

What I am needing is a picture of the original marriage register entry as I am hoping to match the groom's signature with a later marriage to prove this is his first marriage, the transcript can be seen on FindMyPast, ancestry and freereg already but does not show the image.

The groom is Robert Dyer, the marriage was the 26th of Feb 1761 in Tolleshunt D'arcy, the bride was Rebecca Argent, one transcription said the married by Banns but another said by license. I believe they married by license and neither were resident in this parish. Robert later on was a vicar in this parish.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Dyer-10389 - His biography for further information - he was an unsual character

Robert also had a daughter named Mary Dyer born in 1762 in Essex, I have never been able to find her baptism on FindMyPast, ancestry, family search, freereg but i hoped one day to also double check Tolleshunt D'arcy from 1759-1763 for her baptism and/or a baptism of an older sibling (as a license marriage at a young age may have meant the couple had a child arrive very soon after the marriage).

Robert's first wife who may have been Rebecca died before 1773 when Robert married his second wife in Suffolk and was described in that marriage as a widow.

Best Wishes, Take Care and thank you for reading

Paula
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Re: Marriage Lookup Request - 1761 Tolleshunt D'Arcy
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 June 21 15:10 BST (UK) »
Marriage licence bond and allegation of Robert Dyer and Rebecca Argent
Archdeaconry of Essex
1761
https://www.essexarchivesonline.co.uk//result_details.aspx?ThisRecordsOffSet=2&id=1082160

Allegation, 22 Feb 1761, with signature of Robert Dyer, is on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YS26-KP1

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Re: Marriage Lookup Request - 1761 Tolleshunt D'Arcy
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 June 21 17:49 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much Jon, may I ask what search you used to find that allegation on family search? As perhaps learning will help me in future?.

The signature is identical to his marriage in 1773 so I'm sure this is my guy now.

Interesting that he had only been living in the parish 4 weeks and I suspect the 6 years before date is his 14th or 15th birthday but will read up on that.

 I will hold on to the Essex search ref until I've got enough searches to make the spend seem less expensive.

Thank you again this us so awesome

Paula
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Re: Marriage Lookup Request - 1761 Tolleshunt D'Arcy
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 June 21 18:05 BST (UK) »
Hi
Having confirmed that it was by licence on the Essex RO site, and who issued it (Archdeaconry of Essex), I went to the FamilySearch catalogue, searched for England, Essex
In the long list of subjects are Church records (75)

From those, select Marriage bonds and allegations, 1693-1849, Archdeaconry of Essex
There are 6 microfilms that can be viewied at home
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/279816

You really just need to find the right year, and then they are usually arranged within each year alphabetically by first letter of surnames of grooms.

Pity they don't have the bonds on there, as there may be more useful info on them. I guess you can see them on the Essex RO website.
John


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Re: Marriage Lookup Request - 1761 Tolleshunt D'Arcy
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 June 21 18:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you again John, this is very useful.  please may I ask was there any suggestion of a birth place or father's name for Robert on the Essex site. I did register for the Essex pay to view site but it just seems £20 is a lot to pay to look up 1 guy.

Thank you again

Paula
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Re: Marriage Lookup Request - 1761 Tolleshunt D'Arcy
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 13 June 21 22:35 BST (UK) »
Also are you giving me a hint that there is something behind the paywall at the Essex archives that could knock down my brick wall? lol if so i will pay it as soon as i have time.
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Re: Marriage Lookup Request - 1761 Tolleshunt D'Arcy
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 June 21 23:07 BST (UK) »
Hi
I don't know if there is anything on there to help you with Robert. I have only seen the allegation from 1761, and I really don't know if there might be anything useful on the bond (sorry!) There will be a bondsman. The occupation of Robert, and the other bondsman, might be given. The groom's father won't be named on it if he was over 21.
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Re: Marriage Lookup Request - 1761 Tolleshunt D'Arcy
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 13 June 21 23:31 BST (UK) »
Essex Wills Beneficiaries Index, 1675-1858
1788
Beneficiary Mary Dyer, Witham
Testator Argent

1794
Beneficiary Miss Dyer, Witham
Testator Baker

Again, I don't have any more details. I think the year given is the year the will was written, it may have been proved some years later.
That first one might help tie things up for the Rebecca Argent marriage? :-\

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Re: Marriage Lookup Request - 1761 Tolleshunt D'Arcy
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 June 21 07:51 BST (UK) »
Thank you again John. I had a look again at the pay per view park of the website and if I am right it looks like this document can only be viewed in Essex in the searchroom. Thank you kindly getting the allegation has been amazing
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