Author Topic: Henry Deiderich or Detherick Page born Nov 1850 Whitechapel, Middlesex  (Read 2172 times)

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Henry was the eldest son of Walter Page 1829-1890 and Elizabeth Minderman 1830-1899. He was a ship's steward when he married Julia Garrety in Quebec on 6 Nov 1871, they had 2 children, Henry James born 16 Aug 1872, and Elizabeth Louisa born 4 Jan 1874 or 1875 in Poplar. Henry divorced Julia on 29/3/1883 due to her adultery with William Hollis. The children were living with their Page grandparents in 1881 but I can't find them after that, other than Elizabeth marrying Alfred Thomas Caton on 26 Dec 1898 at Poplar, to which her brother was a witness.
Henry D appears to have married again Q1 1884 at Woolwich to Bertha Ida Hulsmann or Hulsman or Ann Smith-I can't find any of them at 1891. Then married yet again Q4 1901 at Kensington to Mabel Augusta Baker or Isabel Magrath; again I can't find them at 1911?
Henry died in 1934 and was buried 17 May 1934 at Battle, Sussex.
The whole is a sad tale but a mystery too?
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Re: Henry Deiderich or Detherick Page born Nov 1850 Whitechapel, Middlesex
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 June 21 11:36 BST (UK) »
The 1884 marriage looks likely to have been to Ann Smith, as there are Kafske/Hulsman male twins b&d Woolwich in Dec qtr 1884.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Henry Deiderich or Detherick Page born Nov 1850 Whitechapel, Middlesex
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 June 21 11:41 BST (UK) »
Similarly, you can pair up the “other” couple on the 1901 marriage by the birth of Joan Patricia Gwelo Goodman mmn Baker, Jun qtr 1905 Kensington, leaving Isabel Magrath as the bride for Henry D Page.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Henry Deiderich or Detherick Page born Nov 1850 Whitechapel, Middlesex
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 June 21 12:00 BST (UK) »
Thank you avm228 I never thought of looking for children of the likely couples.
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Re: Henry Deiderich or Detherick Page born Nov 1850 Whitechapel, Middlesex
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 June 21 12:08 BST (UK) »
Is this him in South Africa ?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVSH-VWDN

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVSH-VWZP

His wife is named as Dorothy Isabel . so maybe not ?

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Re: Henry Deiderich or Detherick Page born Nov 1850 Whitechapel, Middlesex
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 June 21 12:18 BST (UK) »
It looks very likely Christine53 as the 1901 marriage was to an Isabel Magrath who may have changed her name to Dorothy?
Also the son, Henry James seems to have been a mason at Port Elizabeth 1903.
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Re: Henry Deiderich or Detherick Page born Nov 1850 Whitechapel, Middlesex
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 June 21 13:16 BST (UK) »
Here is the death record for Dorothy Isabel Magrath Page in South Africa in 1948 :

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WQCD-BG6Z

confirms we're on the right track  :)
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Re: Henry Deiderich or Detherick Page born Nov 1850 Whitechapel, Middlesex
« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 June 21 13:44 BST (UK) »
Wonderful research, Christine, certainly confirms it, I wonder why Henry died in Sussex? I've been searching for her birth record but can't find it?
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Re: Henry Deiderich or Detherick Page born Nov 1850 Whitechapel, Middlesex
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 June 21 13:49 BST (UK) »
I wonder if Henry Detherick Page possibly married a 4th time.

Henry D Page/Marion C Fisher 1919 Camberwell.

In 1925/6 electoral roll in Oxfordshire are Henry Detherick Page & Marion Carter Page. He is at the address of Harcourt Arms Inn ( possibly a pub) this would appear to tie in with his occupation  when his two children were born in South Africa in 1905 & 1907

There's a death in Folkestone 1947 aged 84 for a Marion C Page aged 84 (c1863)

John