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Nephew?
« on: Tuesday 15 June 21 06:30 BST (UK) »
Hoping you agree David Walter Morgan is the testatorís nephew

Side tracked to a friendís very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)

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Re: Nephew?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 07:05 BST (UK) »
The phrase is:  ...my Nephew's doctor David Walter Morgan...

Whether it means DWM is the testator's nephew is another question.

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Re: Nephew?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 07:10 BST (UK) »
What about in this bit?  I donít see an apostrophe
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Re: Nephew?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 07:20 BST (UK) »
True.  I did say it was an open question.

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Re: Nephew?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 07:24 BST (UK) »
True.  I did say it was an open question.


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I am glad though, that you think the word is Nephew (or nephewís)

The will is written by the Rev John Morgan, and Dr David Walter Morgan was appointed to one of his parishes after his death.  Been trying to find a relationship.
Side tracked to a friendís very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 11:45 BST (UK) »
Since he was a clergyman (per your last comment), have you tried the Clergy Database - https://theclergydatabase.org.uk/

You'll need to search or browse the names section to find his entry. This mentions that David Walter Morgan studied at Cambridge, and later Oxford, and that he appears in Alumni volumes for both (Venn = Cambridge; Foster = Oxford). Printed copies of these can be found at the Internet Archive, and one or both is at Ancestry. The Cambridge data is also on its own website:

https://venn.lib.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/search-2018.pl?sur=morgan&suro=w&fir=david+walter&firo=c&cit=&cito=c&c=all&z=all&tex=&sye=&eye=&col=all&maxcount=50

These entries typically name a person's father and where they were born. Also bear in mind that Oxford and Cambridge colleges usually have their own archives, where you can occasionally pick up a bit more information.

I haven't done the equivalent searches for the testator John, but it would be worth doing.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Nephew?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 11:57 BST (UK) »
Yes, thank you Arthur.  Davidís father was William.
So I am assuming John was Williams brother.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=849957.msg7173726
Side tracked to a friendís very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 13:28 BST (UK) »
That would seem logical, though terms like 'nephew' were sometimes used fairly loosely and might not always refer to the son of a brother or sister.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Nephew?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 15:57 BST (UK) »
Whether it means DWM is the testator's nephew is another question.

With more time to look at the original clip, it appears the context is:

...or manuscripts of mine be exposed to any person's* view besides
my Nephew's doctor David Walter Morgan...


So the possessive case is used for Nephew's because it is his view.  His name is then given - as it were parenthetically - for explanation.

*  The apostrophe here is assumed.