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Re: James Nathaniel Shuttleworth - Date of Death
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 06:46 BST (UK) »
Nathaniel SHUTTLE, aged 21 years born Wiltshire, a Ploughman was tied 10 Jan 1825 at Devizes, sentenced 7 years, arrived per Norfolk 18 Aug 1825 to Sydney, assigned to Mr Hutchins.

NSW Census 1828  https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=810812.0

Nathaniel SHETTLE, 25 years, Protestant, per Norfolk 1825, Government servant, in the household of John GRANT, Brothers, Bathurst.   
(page 262 of POP to TIG)

James SHUTTLEWORTH, Mangles, King Georges Sound.
(page 272 of POP to TIG) 
https://researchdata.edu.au/king-georges-sound-settlement/165881
‘The expedition left Sydney on 9 November, 1826 aboard HM brig Amity, the expedition consisting of a detachment of twenty troops from the 39th Regiment, twenty-three convicts to assist in establishing the settlement, and six months provisions’

Sorry for the slight diversion, but I think it is of interest that James SHUTTLEWORTH per the Mangles had been part of the party sent to Western Australia.

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Re: James Nathaniel Shuttleworth - Date of Death
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 07:04 BST (UK) »
It is indeed interesting

One would think the selected would have a skill to bring as well as being of suitable disposition ;)

Had he learnt a craft during servitude?  Did that happen actually?

Chairmaking perhaps?
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Re: James Nathaniel Shuttleworth - Date of Death
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 07:30 BST (UK) »
Journal of Major Lockyer  - digitised

https://purl.slwa.wa.gov.au/slwa_b1247610_49

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Re: James Nathaniel Shuttleworth - Date of Death
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 08:49 BST (UK) »
More information

- In the Bull Family Tree https://www.myheritage.com/site-family-tree-232066981/bull James is shown as 1805-1865. He has three wives. See the attached image. Mary, who may have been Mary Muirhead, Hannah, and Mary Ann Lewis.
Hannah has three sons. Oates 1838, James 1841 and Elizabeth 1850. James married Mary Ann in 1851 but supposedly had a son by Mary Ann in 1849. Henry S Lewis Shuttleworth. If this is true, no wonder he changed his name.  :)

- Second piece of information is that there was a James Shuttleworth died in 1880 at the age of 74 in South Australaia. This would mean he was born 1806 which is two years after our James was supposedly born. There is also a note "Lancashire papers please copy." Our James was born in Manchester in Lancashire. Coincidence? https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/43109244?searchTerm=mary%20shuttleworth


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Re: James Nathaniel Shuttleworth - Date of Death
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 08:56 BST (UK) »
South Australian Register 26 March 1880
SHUTTLEWORTH  On the 14th March, at Auburn, of inflammation of the lungs,  James Shuttleworth, aged 75 years.  A Colonist of forty years, greatly respected by all who knew him.  Lancashire papers please copy.

1880 - 40 = 1840

James SHUTTLEWORTH and family per the Orleana from London in 1840.     
https://www.familyhistorysa.org/colonists.html 

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More information

- In the Bull Family Tree https://www.myheritage.com/site-family-tree-232066981/bull James is shown as 1805-1865. He has three wives. See the attached image. Mary, who may have been Mary Muirhead, Hannah, and Mary Ann Lewis.
Hannah has three sons. Oates 1838, James 1841 and Elizabeth 1850. James married Mary Ann in 1851 but supposedly had a son by Mary Ann in 1849. Henry S Lewis Shuttleworth. If this is true, no wonder he changed his name.  :)

- Second piece of information is that there was a James Shuttleworth died in 1880 at the age of 74 in South Australaia. This would mean he was born 1806 which is two years after our James was supposedly born. There is also a note "Lancashire papers please copy." Our James was born in Manchester in Lancashire. Coincidence? https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/43109244?searchTerm=mary%20shuttleworth


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Re: James Nathaniel Shuttleworth - Date of Death
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 09:07 BST (UK) »
I would agree that Mary appears to be the mother of Harrie (Henry) SHATTEL/SHATTLES

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/113883518

The third of these notices refers to him and he has a birthdate of 1850.

The names of some children to Henry and Rachael lend weight too.

SHATTEL Thomas N
3669/1878

SHATTEL Lewis Henry A
16925/1884

SHATTEL Charles A
19339/1886

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Re: James Nathaniel Shuttleworth - Date of Death
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 09:24 BST (UK) »
They  used Nathaniel as his given name to register the son.

SHUTTLEWORTH Henry S
1165/1849 V18491165 34A
Parents Nathaniel & Mary A
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Re: James Nathaniel Shuttleworth - Date of Death
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 11:01 BST (UK) »
One would think the selected would have a skill to bring as well as being of suitable disposition ;)

Had he learnt a craft during servitude?  Did that happen actually?
He was a carpenter according to Ticket of Leave. That’s a very useful skill, if you are establishing a new settlement.

James Shuttleworth, per Mangles, Carpenter born Manchester was on trial for larceny, and sentenced 15 April 1841 to the  iron gang at Wooloomooloo for 12 months.
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Re: James Nathaniel Shuttleworth - Date of Death
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 11:12 BST (UK) »
There is convict James Shuttleworth born 1804 in Lancaster, a miller by occupation who was sentenced for life in 1829, and sent to  Tasmania.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
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Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)