The ancestors of Ann Miller

[Revolution]

Thank you for these newspaper stories

Would the marriages be here? I didnt know marriages were on the GRO - just births and deaths

https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index?owc=9K5M-GP8%3A13618101%3Fcc%3D1309819

[jonw65]

Hi
Marriage of Luke and Ann was at St Michael, Bishopwearmouth, 23 Feb 1854
A partial transcription on FamilySearch, from the parish register, but not including occupations, residences, witnesses
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXG2-3WP

There are BTs for Bishopwearmouth, but, despite what it says, I don't think marriages are included that late
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/4128299

You could perhaps wait for the will of Robert Miller, see what that says. We know his grandson was an executor. Never can tell with wills. Mary was still alive, he may just leave everything to her and not name all his children, or it may name every one of them!
Hopefully it will confirm that Ann, wife of Luke Gibson, was his daughter. If not, you may want to see what the marriage certificate says about her father.
John

[Revolution]

Got it today!

Ann, widow of Luke Gibson named in the Will

Also Mary Miller (wife), sons named William and Robert Miller, Mary Jane Miller, Isabella, wife of George Robson and granddaughters Ada Mary and Sarah Robson.

The letter says the granddaughters mother would have been entitled if still living.

[jonw65]

Hi
That is really excellent news. Thanks for telling us.
So you have confirmed that Ann was the daughter of Robert the mason (as you suspected!)
That leaves you still with the problem of Robert's parents. Which doesn't look an easy one.
John

[jonw65]

Wrong button, again! Sorry.

[hanes teulu]

Thanks for the update.
Good to see it confirmed - it always looked promising.

[Revolution]

Thank you all again for your help with this.

Neither Robert or his wifes parents are more straightforward. Huge amounts of conflicting info on ancestry with a mishmash of records from different families.

From looking at the censuses for Robert giving his birth date between 1807-1808. Born Sunderland. Mary Scotts birth ranging from 1808 to 1810 with most being 1808. Born Sunderland. Whether those are accurate or not is difficult to say. Ruling out the 1809 Robert Miller the closest birth date is the 1807 Robert Miller born to Jonathan Miller and Mary Crookshanks.

Are the marriages from this period the banns types with no witnesses?

[Revolution]

I downloaded the newspaper death records for Luke Gibson, his wife Ann plus Anns mother and father. Ive also purchased Anns Will plus the Will of Luke Gibsons father.

Great tip that one.

[jonw65]

Hi
All marriages from 1754 should have two witnesses. Sometimes there were more of course, occasionally I have seen entries with just one!
You may have to try and put together some trees for the various Roberts, and see if anything reveals itself. He (whichever one he was!) was born at the time they were using the Barrington style registers in Durham, and that will help in getting to know about the different families, as there is a lot of info in them.
FreeReg is a good place to start, and there are images of the BTs on FamilySearch.
John