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Mary Ann TILLEY (1793 - 1888): Where was she born?
« on: Tuesday 15 June 21 17:27 BST (UK) »
I am revisiting my TILLEY family from the Langtons. I keep finding a TILLEY marrying a TILLEY - and usually the relationship is quite obvious (first or second cousins). The curiosity arises with this:

William TILLEY married Mary Ann TILLEY in Thorpe Langton on August 26th 1826 "after Banns and with the consent of parents". William was the son of William TILLEY and Mary Ann SWINGLER born about 1807. From her headstone, Mary Ann was 95 years old when she died in 1888 - making her about 14 years older than William who was still under 20 (the reason for the parental consent?).

The problem is I cannot find a Mary Ann to match that time frame in the Langtons. But there could have been such a birth - to Thomas Tilley and Anne Berry - and baptised in Lubenham on November 10th 1793 (a village only five miles distant).

Are there any Lubenham Tilley researchers who could verify or deny such a postulate?

Many thanks

Alan

 

 
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Re: Mary Ann TILLEY (1793 - 1888): Where was she born?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 17:38 BST (UK) »
The 1793 baptism is for MARY (no Ann) Tilley and there is an additional note, which unfortunately I can't decipher)  :-\
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Re: Mary Ann TILLEY (1793 - 1888): Where was she born?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 17:40 BST (UK) »
The 1793 baptism is for MARY (no Ann) Tilley and there is an additional note, which unfortunately I can't decipher)  :-\  Just realised it says "a Pauper"
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Re: Mary Ann TILLEY (1793 - 1888): Where was she born?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 17:52 BST (UK) »
I know that there are many Tiileys in Lubenham / Market Harborough but few link with my own.

One teaser that I did find appears to show that Mary Ann Swingler was the illegitimate daughter of Ann Swingler. She was probably born in 1762, the daughter of William and Kezia Swingler and baptised in Lubenham on January 18th 1763.

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Leicester / Northampton: Craxford,  Claypole, Pridmore, Pollard, Tansley, Crane, Tilley
Derby: Naylor, Ball, Haywood
Buckinghamshire: Cook
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Re: Mary Ann TILLEY (1793 - 1888): Where was she born?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 18:00 BST (UK) »
Have you seen the parish register entry?

Anne - daughter of Wm and Kezia his wife was born 6 December and baptised 13 January 1763.
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Re: Mary Ann TILLEY (1793 - 1888): Where was she born?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 18:14 BST (UK) »
1851 2079/531/23

Mary Tilley b Thorp Langton

1861 2251/14/22

Mary Tilley b Sutton Derbyshire
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Re: Mary Ann TILLEY (1793 - 1888): Where was she born?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 18:19 BST (UK) »
I couldn’t find 1871 but transcribed as ‘Jelley’

1871 3226/70/18

Mary b Derbys ‘Harttshaff’  :-\. (As transcribed)
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Re: Mary Ann TILLEY (1793 - 1888): Where was she born?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 18:24 BST (UK) »
Hi BumbleB

Not seen the Register - the Ancestry transcription reads Birth Date 6 Dec 1762; Baptism date 18 Jan 1863 - they could have misread the "3" as an "8"!

Alan
Leicester / Northampton: Craxford,  Claypole, Pridmore, Pollard, Tansley, Crane, Tilley
Derby: Naylor, Ball, Haywood
Buckinghamshire: Cook
London: Craxford, Lane Crauford
Tyneside: Nessworthy, Simpson
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Re: Mary Ann TILLEY (1793 - 1888): Where was she born?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 15 June 21 18:33 BST (UK) »
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