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Offline Stanwix England

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Numbers on marriage certificate, plus scribble
« on: Wednesday 16 June 21 14:03 BST (UK) »
I'm looking again at a copy of a marriage certificate I have received for a Joseph Stuart and Elizabeth Grayton who married in 1890, on the 25th February at a Register office in Sunderland.

Joseph's father was also called Joseph.

Over both of the Joseph's names, there is a slight crossing out (an upwards stroke over just one letter) and a number added.

Joseph the son has a crossing out over his surname and the number '33' added.

Joseph the father has a crossing out over both names. Over his forename, the number 8 has been added and over his surname the number 24 has been added.

I've tried looking online for answers to no avail.

There is also this text added in the margin, which I can't really read. It looks like it might be 25th, which would make sense because of the date of the marriage, but I still don't really understand the information. It might be the initials of the registrar who as a Robert Scott Derby.

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Re: Numbers on marriage certificate, plus scribble
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 14:08 BST (UK) »
Sorry but the image is too large for me to view properly.  Any comments in the margin would generally relate to the other marks on the certificate
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Re: Numbers on marriage certificate, plus scribble
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 14:09 BST (UK) »
Corrections are numbered and initialled, in this case, by the Registrar.

I managed to download the image; number 8 is different writing but 23/24 are in the same.
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Re: Numbers on marriage certificate, plus scribble
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 14:25 BST (UK) »
Normally corrections are numbered consecutively through the register book. In this case it might be that the one numbered 8 was noticed at the time of the ceremony and changed on the spot, but the surname error (23 & 24, one each for the groom and his father) wasn't noticed till some time later, perhaps at the time of writing up the quarterly return.

Correcting a register entry after the event is a bit more complicated (that's all I know - someone else might be able to give details), but as this one relates to the surname it was probably thought important to get it done.
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 June 21 18:27 BST (UK) »
Hi, thank you everyone for your help, I really appreciate this.

Topic completed now.
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