Author Topic: Kyloe/Lowick, John BURNS, Ann BURNS nee CLARK  (Read 1214 times)

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Re: Kyloe/Lowick, John BURNS, Ann BURNS nee CLARK
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 19 June 21 12:21 BST (UK) »
As you said your usual research is for Scottish records, I thought I'd mention FreeBMD.
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If you get any certs etc for BMD in England and Wales perhaps you would consider adding the details as postems?

Sure I will look into that.  Still getting to grips with all the various tools.
Co Durham BROOKS / Northumberland BURNS / Fogo ALCORN, DODDS / Whitby LINTON, STONEHOUSE, GRAHAM / Stirlingshire BROWN, MCLACHLAN, JOHNSTONE / Blackford (Perthshire) DAVIDSON, MURRAY / St Andrews KIRK, HAY / Leith, Orkney GROUNDWATER, EUNSON / Edinburgh HUTTON, WRIGHT, BLAIR, CHISHOLM, GREGOR

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Re: Kyloe/Lowick, John BURNS, Ann BURNS nee CLARK
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 24 June 21 15:06 BST (UK) »
From that John Burns' death certificate:

d 1848 Apr 02 Fowberry New Hall
age 63 years
shepherd
irritable bladder 1 year, irritation of stomach & bowels 2 months, certified
informant Isabella Burns, Fowberry New Hall, present
Co Durham BROOKS / Northumberland BURNS / Fogo ALCORN, DODDS / Whitby LINTON, STONEHOUSE, GRAHAM / Stirlingshire BROWN, MCLACHLAN, JOHNSTONE / Blackford (Perthshire) DAVIDSON, MURRAY / St Andrews KIRK, HAY / Leith, Orkney GROUNDWATER, EUNSON / Edinburgh HUTTON, WRIGHT, BLAIR, CHISHOLM, GREGOR

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Re: Kyloe/Lowick, John BURNS, Ann BURNS nee CLARK
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 24 June 21 18:06 BST (UK) »
Thank you for telling us the details from the death certificate, it shows that we were pointing you on the correct path.

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Re: Kyloe/Lowick, John BURNS, Ann BURNS nee CLARK
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 24 June 21 21:11 BST (UK) »


And a key mystery is where most of the children were in 1841, if I'm right about the list above.  William was probably the only one already married; Jane, Edward and Margaret were not, and the others probably weren't (based on children's ages in later censuses).  And yet only Mary, Margaret and Isabella were with their parents.

The children born pre 1821 would be likely working away from home in 1841.

Trish :)

Here's my so-far on the locations of William and his siblings in the 1841 census:

William - at Upsettlington, with wife Jane and 3 children.  Evidence of connection: William's obituary (Berwickshire News and General Advertiser 22 January 1901) says he "entered, in 1837, the service of the late... Lord Marjoribanks of Ladykirk, and continued on this estate until the end of his working days".

John - died 1838.  Evidence: Newspaper item in this thread.

Thomas - at Licker, Lowick.  With Matthewson family.  Evidence of connection: Thomas and Eliza's eldest child born around 1843; a Thomas Burns married an Eliza Matthewson in 1843 at Glendale.

Jane - at Ravensdowne, Berwick.  With Willoughby family.  Evidence of connection: Jane Heslop's obituary (Newcastle Journal 1918 Mar 26) says "in her teens [she] entered the service of Mr Willoughby, solicitor, Berwick"; 1851 census shows same William Willoby (same name, age, location) as "attorney in law".

Martha - not found/confirmed.  In 1851 census, married to Robert Percy, in Easington, Durham, oldest child age 5.

Edward - at Simprin, Swinton.  With Wilson family.  Evidence of connection: brother William's obituary (Berwickshire News and General Advertiser 22 January 1901) says William "was for some time at Simprim, under Mr Wilson" [prior to 1837].

Mary, Margaret, Isabella - with parents at New Hall, Fowberry, Chatton.
Co Durham BROOKS / Northumberland BURNS / Fogo ALCORN, DODDS / Whitby LINTON, STONEHOUSE, GRAHAM / Stirlingshire BROWN, MCLACHLAN, JOHNSTONE / Blackford (Perthshire) DAVIDSON, MURRAY / St Andrews KIRK, HAY / Leith, Orkney GROUNDWATER, EUNSON / Edinburgh HUTTON, WRIGHT, BLAIR, CHISHOLM, GREGOR