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Kyloe/Lowick, John BURNS, Ann BURNS nee CLARK
« on: Wednesday 16 June 21 16:25 BST (UK) »
I'm looking for this John BURN(S) and his wife Ann CLARK.

It seems all their children were born in/around Kyloe, so perhaps they stayed there for the rest of their lives.

Anecdotally, either John or Ann had a grandfather who lived to 106 - no more detail known.


son's BAPTISM

William BURNS
1811
Warenford, Northumberland
presbyterian
father: John B.

(anecdotally born 30 Apr 1811, Kyloe)



dau's BAPTISM

Jane Burns
born 27 Jul 1816, baptised 4 Aug 1816
Warenford, Northumberland
presbyterian
parents: John BURNS, Ann CLARK

(anecdotally born 27 July 1816, Twizell House - birthplace Twizell also appears in censuses)



son's DEATH CERT
William BURNS d 14 Jan 1901, Chirnside, age 89
father John BURNS, shepherd (deceased)
mother Ann BURNS m.s. CLARK (deceased)




tentative possible MARRIAGE

Whittingham, Northumberland
03 May 1810
John BURN of Ellingham, shepherd
Ann CLARK of this parish

Co Durham BROOKS / Northumberland BURNS / Fogo ALCORN, DODDS / Whitby LINTON, STONEHOUSE, GRAHAM / Stirlingshire BROWN, MCLACHLAN, JOHNSTONE / Blackford (Perthshire) DAVIDSON, MURRAY / St Andrews KIRK, HAY / Leith, Orkney GROUNDWATER, EUNSON / Edinburgh HUTTON, WRIGHT, BLAIR, CHISHOLM, GREGOR

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Re: Kyloe/Lowick, John BURNS, Ann BURNS nee CLARK
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 21:36 BST (UK) »
Hi

I don’t think you will find a better match for the parents marriage🙂
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Kyloe/Lowick, John BURNS, Ann BURNS nee CLARK
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 22:26 BST (UK) »
I don’t think you will find a better match for the parents marriage🙂

Looks good, doesn't it!  8)

Still holding out for their deaths/births too
Co Durham BROOKS / Northumberland BURNS / Fogo ALCORN, DODDS / Whitby LINTON, STONEHOUSE, GRAHAM / Stirlingshire BROWN, MCLACHLAN, JOHNSTONE / Blackford (Perthshire) DAVIDSON, MURRAY / St Andrews KIRK, HAY / Leith, Orkney GROUNDWATER, EUNSON / Edinburgh HUTTON, WRIGHT, BLAIR, CHISHOLM, GREGOR

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Re: Kyloe/Lowick, John BURNS, Ann BURNS nee CLARK
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 June 21 11:58 BST (UK) »
It looks as though John and Ann had a second son -- the Berwick Advertiser dated 4 August 1838 reports:

'DEATHS'
'On the 27th inst, at West Kyloe, near Lowick, John, second son of Mr John Burn, shepherd of that ?'

If you have access to  Find My Past, this is the link to the notice :

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/viewarticle?id=bl%2f0000717%2f18380804%2f032&stringtohighlight=john%20burn%20shepherd


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Re: Kyloe/Lowick, John BURNS, Ann BURNS nee CLARK
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 June 21 12:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks Allan, great find!!  I had no idea about that but it's likely to be the same John.

Here are all the siblings I know of:

William b1811
Thomas b1814 (is not the one who died in 1838 - still going strong in 1891)
Jane b1816
Mary b1821
Margaret b1826

Years are approximate except William, Jane.
Co Durham BROOKS / Northumberland BURNS / Fogo ALCORN, DODDS / Whitby LINTON, STONEHOUSE, GRAHAM / Stirlingshire BROWN, MCLACHLAN, JOHNSTONE / Blackford (Perthshire) DAVIDSON, MURRAY / St Andrews KIRK, HAY / Leith, Orkney GROUNDWATER, EUNSON / Edinburgh HUTTON, WRIGHT, BLAIR, CHISHOLM, GREGOR

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Re: Kyloe/Lowick, John BURNS, Ann BURNS nee CLARK
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 June 21 13:49 BST (UK) »
The newspaper announcement of the death of John Burn junior says 'second son of Mr John Burn' which implies that John Burn senior was still alive in August 1838. With that in mind, I have looked at the civil death registrations for Berwick District which covers Kyloe. I have found the following:

December Quarter 1846; Volume 25; Page 16
June Quarter 1848; Volume 25; Page 7
March Quarter 1851; Volume 25; Page 9 This one can be discounted as I found a burial entry which shows that he was aged 26 when he died

I also looked at John BURNS and found the following (recorded in Northumberland District):

March Quarter 1858; Volume 10b; Page 207
June Quarter 1858; Volume 10b; Page 187
September Quarter 1860; Volume10b; Page 177
March Quarter 1872; Volume 10b; Page 263 This one can be discounted - shows age at death as 68 years
September 1874; Volume 10b; Page 279 This one can be discounted - shows age at death as 30 years

I have also looked at local newspapers for the above deaths but can not find anything.

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Re: Kyloe/Lowick, John BURNS, Ann BURNS nee CLARK
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 June 21 14:01 BST (UK) »
Thanks a lot for this!
Co Durham BROOKS / Northumberland BURNS / Fogo ALCORN, DODDS / Whitby LINTON, STONEHOUSE, GRAHAM / Stirlingshire BROWN, MCLACHLAN, JOHNSTONE / Blackford (Perthshire) DAVIDSON, MURRAY / St Andrews KIRK, HAY / Leith, Orkney GROUNDWATER, EUNSON / Edinburgh HUTTON, WRIGHT, BLAIR, CHISHOLM, GREGOR

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Re: Kyloe/Lowick, John BURNS, Ann BURNS nee CLARK
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 June 21 14:02 BST (UK) »
I have also looked at the civil deaths for Ann Burn(s) and have found the following:

Ann Burn

March Quarter 1854; Volume 10b; Page 179
March Quarter 1855; Volume 10b; Page 212

Ann BURNS

December 1849; Volume 25; Page 11

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Re: Kyloe/Lowick, John BURNS, Ann BURNS nee CLARK
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 June 21 14:19 BST (UK) »
Can I draw on others' experience please -
Having found the death index references, what's the best way forward?  I can only think of looking at the certificates, which as far as I know is £7 a time and also wouldn't prove much unless the informant is distinctive - is that right?
(My home turf is Scottish records, which work a bit differently.)
Co Durham BROOKS / Northumberland BURNS / Fogo ALCORN, DODDS / Whitby LINTON, STONEHOUSE, GRAHAM / Stirlingshire BROWN, MCLACHLAN, JOHNSTONE / Blackford (Perthshire) DAVIDSON, MURRAY / St Andrews KIRK, HAY / Leith, Orkney GROUNDWATER, EUNSON / Edinburgh HUTTON, WRIGHT, BLAIR, CHISHOLM, GREGOR