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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 21:48 BST (UK) »

John Thomson married Charlotte Campbell on the 19 Aug 1891 the address for both was 75 Whitevale Street Glasgow.


From your first post on this thread, the address where John was living at the time of his marriage. His mother Bridget with Hugh Cairns is showing as living in 1891 (and 1881) at 79 Whitevale Street.

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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 21:50 BST (UK) »
1911 census

It looks like Charlotte is living at Great Eastern Road, Camlachie, described as married and head of house. As luck would have it she is near bottom of page and it only shows sons John and James

Married 21 years, having 11 children but only 5 still living

Charlotte, born Rutherglen

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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 21:56 BST (UK) »
Thank you both,
 you are so kind. Living alone this is my hobby and it staves away lonilessness  i just love helping  other people. x

Charlotte Campbell
1873–
BIRTH 03 AUG 1873 • Rutherglen, Lanarkshire, Scotland
DEATH Glasgow, Scotland
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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 22:02 BST (UK) »
Searching for a death for Charlotte using other name Campbell, I found this.

THOMSON
CHARLOTTE
98
1972
605/ 408
Glasgow, Martha St

Too recent to view online


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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 22:05 BST (UK) »
Yes I found this also,
 don't know wether to ask her to send for it
Fulkes/Fulks/Fulke. Yates, Ashton,Gamage, Jefkins,Lowen, Pooley,Colcock, Bellchambers, all London, Surrey, Sussex Middlesex
Jones, Reece, Granger, Treherne, Worrall Ward, Weeks, Morrey,Thomas, Owen, Dorsett, Hinton all started out in Shropshire

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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 22:15 BST (UK) »
I think I have found John in 1871 with Thomson maternal grandparents:

Andrew Thomson 50 Bricklayer Labourer  b. Ireland
Margaret Thomson 47 b. Ireland
Mary Thomson 17 powerloom weaver daughter b. Glasgow
Bridgt Duff 28 powerloom weaver daughter married b. Ireland
Susan Duff 8 granddaughter b. Glasgow www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQWH-98K
John Kennedy 3 Grandson b. Glasgow

Address: 21 East Hope St, Glasgow/ Calton

From this looks like reputed father for John was a Kennedy perhaps. Not uncommon for illegitimate children to flip between surnames.

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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 22:24 BST (UK) »
It might be worthwhile looking at the birth record of Charlotte Campbell Thomson to see what info it gives on John

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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 22:50 BST (UK) »
John Thomson married Mary Black on 14 Sept 1888 in the Dennistoun area of Glasgow. Mary Ann Black/Thomson, mother's maiden name Welsh, died aged 18 the following year, 1889. The death shows in St Rollox, Glasgow. See clip below from marriage. John still showing names like he did a couple of years later:



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Re: John Thomson b 1868 Barnhill Poorhouse Springburn Glasgow
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 16 June 21 22:55 BST (UK) »
How can Mary Hollachan be his mother in law if her maiden was Duffy?
Maybe Mary was first married to Mr Duffy and then to Mr Hollachan?

Or maybe Mary's maiden name was Duffy, and she had Bridget illegitimately to Mr Thomson, then married Mr Hollachan?

Mary's death certificate might be quite interesting.
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