William DALE c1840

[kevsters]

Hi,
Tracing my mother's paternal side back 4 generations to William DALE born in Burslem circa 1840.  I have his wife & kids but cannot find any birth details other than on the censuses.  Can anyone shed any light?  Thanks 

[BumbleB]

Do you have William's marriage certificate?  What was his father's name?

[rosie99]

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Where do you have him on census and who did he marry

[BumbleB]

Using the GRO facility, and Burslem being in Wolstanton Registration District - there is a birth registration in March quarter 1840 for William Dale - no mother's maiden name, which implies an illegitimate child (not definite).

[kevsters]

Hi,  William Dale married Sarah Ellen Swetnam March 1865 in Stoke-on-Trent.  Unfortunately I do not have a copy of the certificate but have been told that that it states his father as John Goodwin!

From the censuses William was born in Burslem and was a Potter's mould maker.
They had 9 children - who appear in the 1871, 1881 and 1891 censuses living in Hanley, Stoke-on-Trent. 

I have found a William Dale in the 1841 census where it states the Head of the household as Ann and a sibling, Henry.  They are in Cobridge, Burslem, and so that does appear to tally though where the father is - 

Ann, William & Henry then appear in the 1851 census in Hope St, Stoke-on Trent, where is states Ann as a widow, though there are now a further 4 siblings the last born 1851, which again seems to tally.

William's wife, Sarah Ellen Swetnam, was born in Liverpool in the last quarter of 1843.

I have no info on William's parents or siblings other than that suggested in the 1841 & 1851 censuses attached.

Many thanks for looking 


Many thanks

[kevsters]

Could be! though she went on to have another 4 kids 

Thanks

[trish1120]

This appears to be them in 1861;
Joseph Cooper   46
Ann Cooper   42
William Cooper   21 Potters ? born Burslem
Sarah A Cooper   15
Joseph Cooper   11
Emily Cooper   9
Prudence Cooper 6
Elizabeth Cooper 5
James Cooper   3
George Cooper   2

1851 Joseph Cooper is a Lodger.

Emma (Emily above I presume) was bapt 26 Oct 1850,   Hope, Stafford, England
Parents Joseph Cooper and Annie Dale

Trish

[BumbleB]

The 1865 marriage was a civil marriage in Stoke, and so you will have to purchase the certificate to verify the contents (information from StaffordshireBMD).

StaffordshireBMD also confirms that the William Dale birth registration in 1840 in Burslem, has mother's maiden name of Dale.

[kevsters]

Hi Trish,

I think you might be right  but I am not convinced about Emma & Emily.  More likely that Emma dies v. young though not found a death record yet whereas I have found one for Elizabeth.

Thanks,