Parish Registers missing years

[LeedsHipPriest69]

I've recently been looking into distant ancestors from across the West Ridings, and seem to have hit upon a number from Frickley with Clayton and the surrounding area.

Luckily the relevant Parish Registers were transcribed by the Yorkshire Parish Register Society, and whilst yes I know transcriptions can go horribly wrong, i found one that had the surname transcribed as Clayton but from the actual image of the record itself I could clearly read it as Slater, but the transcriptions are generally a great help.

However, there is a gap, with the years 1690 to 1698 missing, and surprise surprise, the likely birth/baptism date for one ancestor falls within this period.

Anyone else come across such issues and can recommend potential solutions or alternative sources of data ?

I'm looking for a John Sunderland born circa 1680-1695. He married Ann Batte in 1710.

Looking at other Sunderlands born in Frickley between 1670-1700, my guess is the father would be one of John, Henry or Samuel, more likely one of the latter two since I cannot find a child of John after 1674, whilst I can for Henry in 1680 and Samuel in 1683

Cheers

[BumbleB]

Genuki indicates that BT's are available - 1678, 1682-87, 1689 and 1691-96.  A possible visit to the Borthwick 

FindMyPast have two baptisms at Frickley with Clayton for John Sunderland -

6 February 1699 - John son of John and 9 October 1670 - John son of John.

[philipsearching]

Genuki indicates that BT's are available - 1678, 1682-87, 1689 and 1691-96.  A possible visit to the Borthwick 

FindMyPast have two baptisms at Frickley with Clayton for John Sunderland -

6 February 1699 - John son of John and 9 October 1670 - John son of John.

Nice find, BumbleB. 

I suppose this begs the question: were there two "John son of John" sets of parents and infants, or did John 1699 die young? A search of burials 1699-70 and marriages prior to Oct 1670 could answer this (I don't have a sub to FindMyPast, so I can't check it).

Philip

[BumbleB]

Genuki also say that the parish registers are deposited with Doncaster Archives. 

[Gibel]

It appears to be the same baptism listed twice presumably due to the old calendar when it would have been Feb 1699 as it was before the beginning of the new year in March 1700. Then listed as 1700 if you are looking at our present calendar.

Did you see that Anne wife of John Sunderland was buried in June 1700?

[BumbleB]

It appears to be the same baptism listed twice presumably due to the old calendar when it would have been Feb 1699 as it was before the beginning of the new year in March 1700. Then listed as 1700 if you are looking at our present calendar.

Did you see that Anne wife of John Sunderland was buried in June 1700?

I'm confused - there are two separate baptisms one in 1670 and the other in 1699 - so 29 years later. 

[Gibel]

I need new specs!

Find my past has images

[BumbleB]

Well, I'm not lending you mine! 

Yes, that is where I found the details - FindMyPast.

[LeedsHipPriest69]

Hi all, thanks for replies, this one has me stumped, I've looked at all available transcriptions for Frickley and surrounding parishes, but nothing definitive but then for the 17th century through to the 19th century much is based on probability as much as fact

For now I'm toying with the idea that John may have been much older than Ann (b1684)

So it could be

John bap Oct 1670 (of John and Mary who married in Apr 1670)
Wife Mary died Oct 1686
John junior married Ann in  Oct 1710, this would make John 40 to Ann 26, not entirely impossible

The spanner in the works is the burial of another "Anne wife of John in Jun 1700". I'm struggling to find any marriage of a John Sunderland to Anne during this timeframe in or around Frickley, other than one in nearby Darfield in 1665, although i then struggle to find another John Sunderland to have married this Anne.

I'm even considering that John Sunderland senior might have even been a bigamist and married both Anne in 1665 and Mary 1670