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Offline michaelcharles

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Mexican and Cuban boys at school in Lancashire, England
« on: Sunday 20 June 21 23:25 BST (UK) »
In 1871, the following boys attended Appleton Academy, Widnes, Lancashire. I am intrigued to find out why they would be at school in a northern England industrial town. What was their family background and what became of them?
1) Santiago Ymas (Imas) b. 1854 in Mexico, son of Santiago Ymas (Imas) (1836-1882)
2)Jose Gomez b.1854 in Havana, Cuba. Oossible full name Jose Rafael Julian Miranda y Gomez, from Cayetano, Pinar del Rio, Cuba.
3) Brothers Camilo Menchaca (b. 1855) and Baltazar Menchata (b.1858), possibly from the Sonora area, Mexico.
As the town of Widnes is close to the port of Liverpool, I suspect the boys' parents may have had something to do with trade.
Any information gratefully received.

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Re: Mexican and Cuban boys at school in Lancashire, England
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 June 21 23:39 BST (UK) »
Here's a tree for the Menchaca family.  I haven't looked at it yet.

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/GSGT-XWS
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Mexican and Cuban boys at school in Lancashire, England
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 June 21 00:17 BST (UK) »
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Mexican and Cuban boys at school in Lancashire, England
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 June 21 00:23 BST (UK) »
Are any of the parents on the 1871 census?

Did that Academy specialise in any particular type of education?  2 of the boys were 16 & 17 which was quite old for a schoolboy in those days
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Re: Mexican and Cuban boys at school in Lancashire, England
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 June 21 00:33 BST (UK) »
I don't have access to Ancestry, but there's a tree there for Jose Rafael Julián Miranda y Gómez, born 1854 in Pinar del Río, Cuba.  Wife's name was Vicenta Ramona Piedra y Rivera.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Mexican and Cuban boys at school in Lancashire, England
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 June 21 20:28 BST (UK) »
CaroleW. Appleton Academy was a Roman Catholic boarding school (c.1830-90), though not run by the church.
Erato. Great information. Thank you very much. Muchos gracias!
Mike.

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Re: Mexican and Cuban boys at school in Lancashire, England
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 22 June 21 14:08 BST (UK) »
Contemporary engraving https://tinyurl.com/b6ennd5t

"It was a boarding school that catered for students from all over the world. Appleton was a stronghold of Catholicism at the time. This fine terrace has survived and is now known as Appleton Villas"

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