Long Lost Family #2; Caroline Smith nee Chambers

[Glen in Tinsel Kni]

Caroline Chambers b1890 married George Smith in Lincoln Nov 1908.

Details from cert include;
Groom George Smith aged 21, occ Groom
Bride Caroline Chambers aged 19
father William Henry Chambers
witnesses Walter and Sarah Speck (brother in law and sister of the bride)
Address of bride and groom 7 Cooling Street

the 1911 entry for 7 Cooling Street includes;
William Chambers (head)
Walter Speck (son in law)
Sarah Speck (daughter)
Dorothy Mary Smith, grand daughter, aged 1.

Birth ref of SMITH, DOROTHY MARY mmn CHAMBERS
GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in LINCOLN Volume 07A Page 479
Dorothy remained in Lincoln, married in 1929 and died in Lincoln in 1981.


I've found a married Caroline Smith of the right age at the spread Eagle in 1911, no sign of George in 1911 but I have no idea where/when he was born though the 1908 marriage cert states he is 21.

I can't find anything for Caroline or George after 1911.

[CaroleW]

You don’t say whether any father is shown for George on the marriage cert

Where is the “spread Eagle”?

[Glen in Tinsel Kni]

Spread Eagle wa on the High Street between the Stonebow and High Bridge in Lincoln.

Marriage cert says Charles Smith, occ Ostler as father to George.

[Annette7]

Caroline Chambers birth Mar.1890, mmn Skelton - parents William Henry Chambers and Mary Ann Skelton, marriage Dec.1875 Sheffield (1881 census Lincoln states both born Sheffield).

George Smith birth Dec.1886 mmn Oxby - son of Charles Smith and Emma Oxby.   Emma Oxby married (1) James Handsley 25/12/1878 Bardney, Lincs and 2) Charles Smith Sept.qtr.1886 Lincoln.

Annette 

[rosie99]

There is a Charles Smith occ Ostler in High Street, Lincoln in 1911 - have you eliminated him as Georges father

In 1891 that Charles has a son George, they are living in Lincoln
RG12/2595 Folio 8 page 10
Charles Smith   26   Coachman domestic servant   bn Stainfield, Lincolnshire
Emma Smith   29 bn Ruskington, Lincolnshire
George Smith    4 bn Lincoln
Thomas Smith   2 bn Lincoln
Charles Smith   bn Lincoln   

[rosie99]

Possible for George in 1901 as Horseman on farm at Cold Hanworth
RG13/3067 Folio 31 Page 13

[Annette7]

Just found a tree on Ancestry showing George and Caroline both died in Manitoba, Canada.

There is a picture of grave on FindaGrave - buried at Alexander Cemetery, Brandon, Manitoba.   Clearly them (although birth dates off) as stone also has dau. Dorothy Mary Butterfield on it.   George is shown on stone as George Charles b.1886 (born plain George Dec.1886), died 1958 Brandon, Manitoba and Caroline b.1886, died 3/2/1968 Souris, Manitoba.

The tree also shows further children: George Alexander 1912-1952, Thomas Adam 1915-1971, Charles Roland 1917 (should be 1919)-1988 and another unnamed daughter.

No other details for the children - no birthplaces given - but looks like all 3 boys were born in Sheffield but with no second names on birth records.

Caroline Smith 31 with sons George 8, Thomas 5 and Charles 15 months, arrived at Quebec on 16/11/1920 - her husband shown as George but not sure if she was joining him or whether he is listed separately on the manifest.

In Brandon, Manitoba on 1921 Canadian census.

Annette

[Glen in Tinsel Kni]

Thanks for the replies

I only found a baptism for Dorothy (later births in bmd match baptisms of other couples).

There is another branch of the Chambers family who went to Canada in 1924 but a different area.

[Glen in Tinsel Kni]

Just found a tree on Ancestry showing George and Caroline both died in Manitoba, Canada.

There is a picture of grave on FindaGrave - buried at Alexander Cemetery, Brandon, Manitoba.   Clearly them (although birth dates off) as stone also has dau. Dorothy Mary Butterfield on it.   George is shown on stone as George Charles b.1886 (born plain George Dec.1886), died 1958 Brandon, Manitoba and Caroline b.1886, died 3/2/1968 Souris, Manitoba.

The tree also shows further children: George Alexander 1912-1952, Thomas Adam 1915-1971, Charles Roland 1917 (should be 1919)-1988 and another unnamed daughter.

No other details for the children - no birthplaces given - but looks like all 3 boys were born in Sheffield but with no second names on birth records.

Annette

Caroline's father was born in Sheffield RD though dotted back and forth between Worksop and Lincoln for a while. Caroline had a brother named Alexander and there's dozens of George's. I'll pop onto findagrave and try to check the managers details, they might be family (or maybe not knowing my luck).