I had a further thought: that the Michael Rice who's with John + 'Turet' in 1851 could be Turet's son, born in Blackburn Lancs but before she met John Rice. (And in that case Michael's birth surname is not Rice, which is why we can't readily find him pre-1851.)
It doesn't matter, really, what happened to any John Rice after 1851.
What's important, in finding the Turet, is what happened before 1851... whom did he marry?
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What is your interest here? Is it Michael?
You write, ‘whom did he marry’ - do you mean John?
It is puzzling if you are not bothered about John Rice after 1851.
Hello everyone
Thank you for your continuing interest - please stay around, because we haven't cracked this yet.
I confirm that the 1851 Seaham census entry for birthplace of Michael Rice states only "Lancashire Blackburn" in that order.
The parish the Rices were living in, in 1851, is Dawdon. It's the place I'm sitting in now, while typing this to you.
I'd guess that some online sites have copied the census details and a computer somewhere has attached a wrongly spelled 'Daudon' to some of the births in error. It's definitely not 'Darwen' on the census (but that was an inspired thought, Maiden Stone.)
JenB: I agree, the Rootspoint site is wrong.
Heywood, to reply to your query: my interest is this (as I said at the outset):
What is this name TURET which an 1851 enumerator has attached to two Irish wives who were living in the same road in Seaham Co. Durham?
I think there's enough evidence, now, to suggest there is no such name as Turet, and therefore the name of the two Irish women has been wrongly represented.
But I still want to know what the name
should be, which is why I made the original post.
Because (as you've kindly shown) there's a possibility that John Rice re-married quite soon after the 1851 census, there is no certainty that TURET would be with him in later records.
We can't search for Turet's death because we don't know what first name we're looking for.
So this is why I am looking backwards from 1851, to the point where John Rice married Turet - because a marriage entry would give her correct first name.
Turet seems to be 10 years older than John Rice on the 1851 (she's given as 40, he's logged as 30), so her marriage to John could well be a second marriage for her, and her son Michael Rice born Blackburn c. 1840 belongs to an earlier marriage.
If this theory is correct, there definitely should be a marriage entry for John & Turet in England between about 1840 - 1851 (Lancs? Yorks? Durham?), rather than Ireland (even though they're both born in Ireland), because she was already in Lancs when she had her son.
Trouble is, I haven't found a marriage yet, but I'm hopeful...
Does that help clarify?
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