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Re: Michael Brogan
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 24 June 21 17:51 BST (UK) »

...and we don’t know for definite if he was born in Scotland but we were told that his family lived there by a relative who is no longer with us.


Have you looked at Ireland for births? He looks to have been consistent with his age/birth year on his marriage and death regs.

Nothing obvious for him in Scotland if you have already looked at the 1917 birth. The births before this were three in 1913.

Nothing obvious for births in England either. No births showing at all for a Michael Brogan between 1913-17  :-\

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Re: Michael Brogan
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 24 June 21 18:00 BST (UK) »
Nothing obvious Ireland either that I can see. Searching 1915-17 on https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie

This Michael does have a father Michael, however, he is showing as a farmer. From farmer (or working in agriculture) to coal mining  :-\ https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01365/1562612.pdf

Another entry for 1915, father Michael also showing as farmer https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01374/1566013.pd
Nothing for 1916 or 1917.

Maybe someone will find something further.

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Re: Michael Brogan
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 24 June 21 20:35 BST (UK) »
On Ancestry when I added the death index document into my family tree it also added that he was born in 1917 Scotland but the document itself doesn’t have this information on it.

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Re: Michael Brogan
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 24 June 21 20:41 BST (UK) »
The only original source for Scottish BMD records is www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk Ancestry won't help you in this respect, unless someone has added the original image from Scotlands People on to their tree and you can see this.

Info can come from many places, unfortunately often not verified  :-\

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Re: Michael Brogan
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 24 June 21 20:44 BST (UK) »
If you are still struggling to find his origins, you should consider getting his WW2 service records.

They should include his date and place of birth. Address when he enlisted, next of kin details (he wasn't married at this time given he married in 1942). Other personal details could well be included.

My father's service record from WW2 also included a lot of details on his schooling and education for example.

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Re: Michael Brogan
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 24 June 21 20:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone I’m going to purchase his ww2 service records. Do I get these from www.gov.uk

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Re: Michael Brogan
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 24 June 21 20:53 BST (UK) »
Yes, you do. www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records

You have his death registration and his army number which all help  :)

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Re: Michael Brogan
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 24 June 21 21:13 BST (UK) »
Brilliant thanks so much everyone